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Corrupting Yahweh's creation

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Messianic Israelite, Apr 12, 2021.

  1. Messianic Israelite

    Messianic Israelite Active Member

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    Genetically engineered (GE) crops are crops that have been engineered to produce certain qualities not intrinsic to the plant itself. They are more commonly referred to as genetically modified organisms (GMO). An organism is inserted with genetic material from a different species to create a new organism not developed in nature or through traditional breeding. But there are concerns with GE crops, for example, because of uncertainty due to the lax regulation of government agencies and the lack of unbiased scientific research in the long-term human and environmental health impacts.

    There are also concerns regarding the destruction of ecosystems, because the majority of GE crops are engineered to work in partnership with a specific herbicide. These chemicals are sprayed freely and extensively on farmland, negatively impacting surrounding communities and ecosystems. This could be one of the reasons why there has been a decline in honey bee populations in recent years.

    Also, excessive use of pesticides and herbicides has led to super weeds and pests that have developed resistance to commonly used pesticides. The use of GMO crops have also led to a proliferation of single-crop farming, which has led to soil degradation and overuse of nitrogen fertilizers, polluting our waterways and creating dead zones void of aquatic life. In the U.S, GMOs are in as much as 80% of conventional processed food. According to a Reuters story three years ago, this has led to the growing of super crops, super cows, and super chickens through the using the latest genetic technologies. Manipulating the genes of one species with another-especially an unclean species- IS corrupting Yahweh's creation!

    Please discuss.
     
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  2. Subduction Zone

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    There are quite a few different types of GMO's. Many of them reduce the amount of pesticides that are needed to grow crops.

    "For example, the Bt gene is commonly genetically engineered into crops like corn, cotton, and soybeans. It comes from a naturally occurring bacteria known as Bacillus thuringiensis.

    This gene produces a protein that is toxic to several pests and insects, which gives the GMO plants a natural resistance. As such, the GMO crops don’t need to be exposed to harmful pesticides as often (7Trusted Source).

    In fact, an analysis of 147 studies from 2014 found that GMO technology has reduced chemical pesticide use by 37% and increased crop yields by 22% (8Trusted Source)."

    Then there is golden rice with the ability to provide needed nutrition for millions:

    "Additionally, genetic modification can increase the nutritional value of foods. For example, rice high in beta carotene, also called golden rice, was developed to help prevent blindness in regions where local diets are chronically deficient in vitamin A (12Trusted Source)."

    Allergies were a possible negative outcome, but scientists are aware of this:

    "A study from the mid-1990s found that adding a protein from Brazil nuts to GMO soybeans could trigger an allergic reaction in people sensitive to Brazil nuts. However, after scientists discovered this, they quickly abandoned this GMO food (15Trusted Source).

    Although allergy concerns are valid, there have been no reports of allergic reactions to GMO foods currently on the market."

    The one valid concern has to do with Roundup.

    "Although GMO crops are convenient for farmers, there are environmental concerns.

    Most GMO crops are resistant to herbicides, such as Roundup. This means that farmers can use Roundup without fear of it harming their own crops.

    However, a growing number of weeds have developed resistance to this herbicide over time. This has led to even more Roundup being sprayed on crops to kill the resistant weeds because they can affect the crop harvest (22Trusted Source, 23Trusted Source, 24Trusted Source).

    Roundup and its active ingredient glyphosate are subject to controversy because animal and test-tube studies have linked them to various diseases (25Trusted Source, 26Trusted Source, 27Trusted Source)."



    GMOs: Pros and Cons, Backed by Evidence

    It is not an open and shut case, and you appear to be spreading quite a bit of hysteria based upon only a very partial picture of what is going on. Overall GMO's are a plus. That does not mean that one can alter plants recklessly, but no one seems to be doing that.
     
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  3. We Never Know

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    Domestic bananas have long since lost the seeds that allowed their wild ancestors to reproduce – if you eat a banana today, you’re eating a clone.

    All our food is 'genetically modified' in some way – where do you draw the line? - Alliance for Science
     
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  4. rational experiences

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    The idea historic of super abundance consciously relates to man's science perusal of large earth giant pre owned life.

    As the large abundant radio wave UFO mass dispersion fills the heavens with communicated mass that supports science in thinking to become possessed by giant themes.

    In imagery. False mind relating advice conditions about abundance. To reason the GE status.

    Mass production knows it involves huge wastage also.

    The theme today is about false gain of abundance. Placing life into imbalanced.

    As we are innate natural first consciously. We know our own advice true. Affected by the states we invent.

    Spiritual sciences developed a healthy natural crop thesis by re mineralising pastures with stone re supplement in crop health.

    Where minerals interact harmonically in the natural heavenly communicators. As balances formed naturally. Where weeds growing with crops took the pest problem away as the crop was stronger than the weed.

    Then herbal weeds grew instead of pest weeds as a mutual food sourcing. Which increased healthy food supply as interactive nature.

    We lost the advice of mutual food growth and inherited unnatural health conditions in society whilst using the food type of over abundant crops. A cycle supporting a decline in human health.

    By not food grouping as nature demonstrates.

    We knew that human advice already.

    Money which we know was false idealism introduced a huge amount of human communal supported living problems. Our human condition causes the problems itself without careful forethought.

    Once given to the elder life who saw how nature functioned rationally as an equal life worker. Where good spiritual advice came from. The work and labour of natural man.

    When humans change nature for human gluttony. A pre existing human warning was already taught.
     
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    They will find out sooner or later.
     
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  6. Heyo

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    Very informative. The main problem with GMOs is not the GMO but the greed that's behind it. You already mentioned RoundUp Ready plants. The other problem is "patents on life" and the lobbying efforts of "Big Farming". When all crops are patented and commercial farming of traditional crops is outlawed (yes, they tried that), Bayer has got us all by the reproductive organs.
     
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  7. sayak83

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    The crops are already modified by thousands of years of selection. Genetic Engineering is making the process more efficient and this will be necessary to cater to rising demand for food in the future decades. But one needs good guidelines of fair practice and trade like every other human activity and profession.
    Corrupting creation is just nonsense.
     
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  8. Subduction Zone

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    Yes, that is an idea that needs to be extremely limited. I read about an organic farmer that tried to grow their own rapeseed. It was cross pollinated by bees with nearby GMO fields and they were sued, successfully by a major seed producer. They ended up getting the last laugh. The countersued because their crops were contaminated and ultimately won their suit.

    If a company cannot control where their genes go not only should they lose ownership rights to them, they should also be responsible for the effects their plants have on others. GMO's are not one hundred percent flawless, but they are not the great evil some think that they are.
     
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    Given the climate change scenarios, we will be staring at serious famines by 2050 if heat and draught resistant GMO crops are not developed over the next decades.
    Temperature increase reduces global yields of major crops in four independent estimates
     
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    And that is exactly what is behind it all

    Corona strategy is also part of the same plan

    I used to enjoy "the A team"
    'I love it when my plan comes together'

    But the plan Big Pharma/Tech/xxx play is not much to enjoy

    Though I heard them say with their 'plan 2030' "you own nothing but you will be happy", forgetting to mention that they will own everything incl. us.

    Has been planned for decades, so can't be stopped, hence I don't worry, but I see their plan being worked out.
     
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    They had some of their plans crushed in the EU. We are still mostly GMO free and are still allowed to plant all kinds of crops they don't own. And the reputation and the stock value of Bayer has taken a dive with the acquisition of Monsanto.
     
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    After they are done Corona-controlling us, they can and will do whatever they want. For sure GMO will go further and taking individual freedom is too obvious to miss now. So homegrown foods will soon be history, using the thread "you might create virus, just buy our stuff in the supermarket = Corona Proof". All will be too scared to object
     
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    Why all of the hysteria against GMO's? They are needed for our overpopulated planet.
     
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    Corona-controlling? If people would fear Corona, we wouldn't have incidences of over 100.
     
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    Nah.

    For centuries, cultures have been planting crops that are simply hot like the originals. An example, is corn, whereas the oldest known corn was more peapod in size and appearance with only two overlapping leaves.

    Also, the use of more drought, insect, microbe resistant, and productive strains has fed multiple millions more per year than the original strains ever could.
     
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    It just started with Corona. I don't expect it to end any time soon
     
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