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Convictions In The Arbery Case

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Part of prison reform should be deprivatization.
One advantage to privatization is that government
can monitor standards in private prisons with less
risk of conflict of interest. Government monitoring
itself has been a disaster.
 

anna.

but mostly it's the same
One advantage to privatization is that government
can monitor standards in private prisons with less
risk of conflict of interest. Government monitoring
itself has been a disaster.

Private prisons are in it to make a profit. When they cut corners on quality of staff, food, or infrastructure to increase their margin, who suffers, and who will listen to them? They're criminals, after all.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Private prisons are in it to make a profit. When they cut corners on quality of staff, food, or infrastructure to increase their margin, who suffers, and who will listen to them? They're criminals, after all.
"Profit" is such a dirty word to so many people.
Yet all countries that try to do without (eg, N Korea)
are among the worst examples.

Government run prisons cut corners too. (A friend
worked in a federal prison, & had many stories.)
Government need only require that prisons meet
contractual standards. But if they don't do even that,
can government be trusted to run its own prisons?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes
Murders, rapists, domestic violence, war crimes, stealers,and even more should be killed. They don't like our society and so they are welcome to leave the world and be with everyone else not in our society.
I'm fine with their being killed.
The problem lies in the process of identifying them.
It's been fraught with error & corruption.
So I wouldn't give government that power.
 

Hold

Day Dreamer
Premium Member
I'm fine with their being killed.
The problem lies in the process of identifying them.
It's been fraught with error & corruption.
So I wouldn't give government that power.
So extermination of human beings is easier to live with than corruption in your opinion.
 

anna.

but mostly it's the same
"Profit" is such a dirty word to so many people.
Yet all countries that try to do without (eg, N Korea)
are among the worst examples.

Government run prisons cut corners too. (A friend
worked in a federal prison, & had many stories.)
Government need only require that prisons meet
contractual standards. But if they don't do even that,
can government be trusted to run its own prisons?

When it comes to prisons, it is a dirty word. If all profits were plowed back into prison operations, there could be some room for discussion.

Here's a simple fact sheet for what is a complex problem.

https://www.afscme.org/blog/5-Prisons-Factsheet.pdf
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
When it comes to prisons, it is a dirty word. If all profits were plowed back into prison operations, there could be some room for discussion.

Here's a simple fact sheet for what is a complex problem.

https://www.afscme.org/blog/5-Prisons-Factsheet.pdf
The linked article wasn't a comprehensive analysis.
Nothing was compared or examined statistically.
Just a collection of incidents culled to reinforce the claim.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Did I misread or misunderstand,"I'm fine with their being killed'?
I'm fine with the guilty being killed.
But I don't trust government to determine guilt with
enuf certainty to impose an irreversible sentence.
So I oppose the death penalty.
 

anna.

but mostly it's the same
The linked article wasn't a comprehensive analysis.
Nothing was compared or examined statistically.
Just a collection of incidents culled to reinforce the claim.

I didn't even imply it was a comprehensive analysis, which is why I called it a simple fact sheet. The problem is too complex to give a comprehensive analysis in a short post. It was a starting point, nothing more.

As for reinforcing the claim, that's the purpose of supporting information, and there's plenty of it out there. But it was Thanksgiving, and I had places to be. Even if your mind is made up, maybe another reader will be inclined to do some further research.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I didn't even imply it was a comprehensive analysis, which is why I called it a simple fact sheet. The problem is too complex to give a comprehensive analysis in a short post. It was a starting point, nothing more.

As for reinforcing the claim, that's the purpose of supporting information, and there's plenty of it out there. But it was Thanksgiving, and I had places to be. Even if your mind is made up, maybe another reader will be inclined to do some further research.
My mind is made up regarding distrusting government to
monitor itself being at great risk for corruption & incompetence.
The issue....
Managing prisons for safety & rehabilitation efficiently.
We should be open to the best way....not committed to
the pro or anti capitalist solution. Either way....setting
standards, monitoring them, & enforcing them has
been a problem for both. This must change.
 
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