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Controversial Agreement In Minneapolis With Teachers Union

PureX

Veteran Member
That would depend upon what you mean by "equality",
& upon the means used to achieve it.

It was the left that herded minorities into government
housing, thereby creating more segregation. And to
top that off, they create largesse programs that keep
poverty alive, & discourage work, eg, killing benefits
as soon as the recipient earns a wage. Then, using
zoning laws, they prevent low cost housing from being
built in their neighborhoods.
That wasn't "the left", that was everyone.
Liberals & conservatives....you guys each want to give
the other side sole blame for problems you both cause.
Wait, didn't you JUST do that???
Instead of blaming each other, try to design programs
that work without violating anyone's civil liberties.
And think...imagine unintended consequences so that
programs don't cause more problems than they solve.
But in a society where we all want as much of everything as we can get, someone is going to go without. And since we don't want to see the evidence of what a bunch of selfish, greedy pricks we all are, you know, with poor people dying in the streets and being run over by our cars and what-not, we decided we had to hide them away, somewhere. Public housing, we called it. Except that we didn't sterilize them, first, so they just kept multiplying. And eventually they become angry, and criminal, or hopeless and drug addicted. and the projects became dangerous criminal slums. So now what? How do we keep being selfish, greedy pricks while pretending that it has no horrible consequences for anyone else? If you can figure that out we'll elect you the president of both parties.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That wasn't "the left", that was everyone.
Have you not noticed that I blamed conservatives for such
failed policies too? The other poster was singing the praises
of those supposedly tolerant, non-racist, benevolent,
goody-2-shoes liberals....so it was necessary to correct him.
 

Suave

Simulated character
Seems that the an agreement between the Minneapolis Teachers Union and the Minneapolis Public Schools which stipulates that White teachers will be laid off before teachers of color, regardless of their seniority has been reached.
Something tells me that this is headed to court since it appears that it violates the Civil Rights Act, as well as the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution according to the below article on the agreement.
Teachers union agreement stipulating White teachers be laid off first criticized: 'Constitutionally suspect'
For you Fox News doubters
Minneapolis teachers union contract would lay off white teachers first
What about multi-racial teachers? Perhaps we should consider genetic testing in order to evaluate the multi-racial teacher's percentage of European descent determining their lack of color consequently resulting in their unemployment, :D

Minneapolis Public Schools defends policy to prioritize retaining educators of color when determining layoffs - ABC News (go.com)
 
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crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
How much influence does this being ground zero for the George Floyd incident factor into this?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Seems that the an agreement between the Minneapolis Teachers Union and the Minneapolis Public Schools which stipulates that White teachers will be laid off before teachers of color, regardless of their seniority has been reached.
Something tells me that this is headed to court since it appears that it violates the Civil Rights Act, as well as the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution according to the below article on the agreement.
Teachers union agreement stipulating White teachers be laid off first criticized: 'Constitutionally suspect'
For you Fox News doubters
Minneapolis teachers union contract would lay off white teachers first
Nice way to bolster the ranks of racist/supremacist organizations.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Seems that the an agreement between the Minneapolis Teachers Union and the Minneapolis Public Schools which stipulates that White teachers will be laid off before teachers of color, regardless of their seniority has been reached.
Something tells me that this is headed to court since it appears that it violates the Civil Rights Act, as well as the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution according to the below article on the agreement.
Teachers union agreement stipulating White teachers be laid off first criticized: 'Constitutionally suspect'
For you Fox News doubters
Minneapolis teachers union contract would lay off white teachers first
Minneapolis deserves the color over quality policy they choose . *mod edit*
 
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Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Seems that the an agreement between the Minneapolis Teachers Union and the Minneapolis Public Schools which stipulates that White teachers will be laid off before teachers of color, regardless of their seniority has been reached.
Something tells me that this is headed to court since it appears that it violates the Civil Rights Act, as well as the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution according to the below article on the agreement.
Teachers union agreement stipulating White teachers be laid off first criticized: 'Constitutionally suspect'
For you Fox News doubters
Minneapolis teachers union contract would lay off white teachers first

It seems to me a racially discriminatory, harmful policy that shouldn't exist in any state claiming to stand for racial equality.

Teachers are the backbone of the education system. If layoffs start being based on skin color rather than competence or seniority, I believe the result may well be much worse than whatever problem such a misguided policy aims to resolve.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
That would depend upon what you mean by "equality",
& upon the means used to achieve it.

It was the left that herded minorities into government
housing, thereby creating more segregation. And to
top that off, they create largesse programs that keep
poverty alive, & discourage work, eg, killing benefits
as soon as the recipient earns a wage. Then, using
zoning laws, they prevent low cost housing from being
built in their neighborhoods.

Liberals & conservatives....you guys each want to give
the other side sole blame for problems you both cause.
Instead of blaming each other, try to design programs
that work without violating anyone's civil liberties.
And think...imagine unintended consequences so that
programs don't cause more problems than they solve.
Equality and equity are virtue signal words
that mean whatever someone wants.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
You just mentioned the elephant in the room.

The right will surely be upset over this agreement for racist reasons. They will deny it, but we see the motives in the accumulation of their attitudes and beliefs. They fear that whites will be a minority classification in the USA at some point.

Ever notice that pitics is America's new racism?

ID someone as " right" , or " left" and there's
nothing you can make up to trash them that .
isn't met with cheers from your race.

Turning a complaint about racial discrimination into racism is just sick.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It seems to me a racially discriminatory, harmful policy that shouldn't exist in any state claiming to stand for racial equality.

Teachers are the backbone of the education system. If layoffs start being based on skin color rather than competence or seniority, I believe the result may well be much worse than whatever problem such a misguided policy aims to resolve.
Of course it's racist. And they have the sheer gall to imply others are, while theirs are not.

It just provides more fuel to replacement theory.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Ever notice that pitics is America's new racism?

ID someone as " right" , or " left" and there's
nothing you can make up to trash them that .
isn't met with cheers from your race.

Turning a complaint about racial discrimination into racism is just sick.

Just reverse black and white on policymaking and watch the fireworks erupt.

Racism is racism.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You mean like affirmative action?

I'm only commenting on the craziness of saying anti racism is racism.

And I like living here where it's not the
24-7 topic.
All it does is affirm that racism really works and is beneficial for a specified group of people that uses it.

It legitimizes anyone and everyone deciding to use and employ racism to their advantage.

Think that will solve anything?
 
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