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Controlling your emotions vs. Disassociating with your emotions

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I don't think of mindfulness and emotional regulation strictly as controlling emotions; I think of it as mastering my reactions to them and acknowledging as well as letting them pass instead of suppressing them. On that part, I agree with you that there's a difference between "controlling" one's emotions, so to speak, and disassociating from them or ignoring them. I believe the latter can lead to resentment, unresolved problems, and generalized discomfort. I have seen it happen with some people who bottle up their feelings, too.
What if something you're feeling is not passing? It continuously returns. Do you not, at some point, have to figure out ways to make yourself feel happy instead of negative about it when there is nothing you're able to do about it? Acceptance and learning to live with the scenario, for example? Surely you could not live with experiencing negativity about said thing all the time.
If I find myself experiencing an emotion so intense as to require active "control" rather than acknowledgement, where I just let it run its course, then I tend to examine the root causes or the origin of that emotion. For instance, instead of trying to "control" or pull the reins on, say, an intense feeling of sadness, I think about why I experienced that emotion and how or whether I can avoid the same intensity in the future by changing my perspective or mindset.
What is the difference between changing your perspective on something and dissociation or suppression? How can one tell the difference? They are inevitably silencing the negative emotions to replace them with positive ones, right?
Sometimes intense emotions are perfectly valid and even healthy, though, which is where the aspect of regulating my reactions comes into play. In those cases, I don't control or try to reduce or eliminate the emotions themselves, but I do try to react in a healthy, mindful way. My therapist told me something that has stuck with me since: "Emotions carry a message and try to tell you something. Make sure to read and understand their message, but don't hold on to the emotion itself afterward."
What is your reaction to someone who is annoying you or making you angry but there's not really much ground to be assertive? For example, someone is being obnoxious in a conversation (not listening, oversharing, talking too much, etc) I personally would not say anything and go along with it, all the while showing body and verbal language cues that I am bothered, but if they can't pick up on that then what?

Or if your boss practices subtle favoritism but it's subtle enough where it's hard to call them out on it in any meaningful way? I personally would just continue to do my work and do my best to not let it interfere with my work.


What about people with BPD, who experience very intense emotions over minor things? Shouldn't they learn how to 'control their emotions' in a way? Regulating reactions just wouldn't cut it for someone dealing with that, right? They would actively need to work at reducing how these things make them feel?
 

crossfire

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I actively work to transform the obscuring emotions into the Dhyani wisdoms.
 

ADigitalArtist

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For my experience the only way you get emotional intelligence is by allowing yourself to experience emotions. When therapist say 'feel your feelings,' it's not a metaphor. They really do mean sit with your emotions and feel how they are effecting your body physically. It is the opposite of disassociating.

Your body is going to try and process through your emotional state regardless of whether you pay attention to these signals your body is giving you, but if you try and ignore or suppress that effect, it's can blow up at you through experiences like anxiety, depression, impulsive behaviors (and no, impulsive behaviors are not something everyone can just decide to control) or even physical illness. Learning when you are becoming emotionally agitated early and knowing what that looks like in your body can help put a physical context to your emotions, and give you the info you then take to mindfulness techniques, de-escalation and distress tolerance building.

There's also a certain honesty to intentionally letting yourself experience your emotions. Like you're being authentic with yourself and accepting how things truly make you feel. And once you've accepted that, You're in a better place to work on the 'whys' and self growth.

But to start you have to get comfortable sitting with yourself and being intuitive about your body, without adding narrative or judgement. And that takes practice.
 

Mock Turtle

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My contribution will be minor as to this, but the one thing that I did notice when I began to be more attuned to my emotions was that I didn't hold back so much (perhaps suppressing my feelings) after changing, and now will often get angry to express how I feel, but also I am in control of such emotions and know how to switch them off as required. So from the introvert nature of often being silent I find this a much more pleasant state, even if those to whom I get angry won't. Much prefer the me now. :cool:

PS And this tends to show in how I also will be emotionally affected as to so many instances where tears will be likely
 
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PureX

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I think ideally we want to acknowledge and feel our emotions, but understand what they are so that they don't control us. And our actions.
 

SalixIncendium

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I don't control my emotions. They are what they are; they're inherent to this body. What I can control is how I react to them.

I'd think that you'd have to decrease the intensity of your emotions in the moment to not react irrationally. Extreme emotion clouds your judgement, you have to mellow yourself out so you can make good judgement calls, right?

Nope. They are as intense as they are. Emotions don't "mellow out." My behaviors resulting from my reaction to those emotions do.

As I said, I hold control over my reactions, not my emotions.

Then what exactly is 'taking a deep breath' doing if not calming your mind?

Exchanging carbon dioxide for oxygen.

You know what I meant. What is its purpose mentally. Inhaling and exhaling creates a process of relieving the tension in your mind, slows your thoughts. That is what I consider controlling your emotions. Is that fair enough?

I knew exactly what you meant. And I'm hoping you understand exactly what I mean.
Apologies for not being impeccable with my word and explaining in greater detail last night.

Taking a deep breath is a physiological process that lowers blood pressure and slows the heart rate.


Taking a deep breath doesn't control emotions, it is a reaction that controls one's reaction.
 

Nakosis

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It came to me that trying to control one emotions and remaining stoic can be a slippery slope for disassociating with them. Principles I admire such as not stressing over things which we have no control over, not lusting after things for which we can never attain, using difficulties as a means of personal growth, etc. - I had to separate them from what I think is disassociating with yourself and reality.

The difference, I would say, is that controlling your emotions requires you to be aware of your feelings, truly feeling them, whereas disassociation implies that you are disconnecting from them and are trying to ignore them. Just because you are trying to alleviate your feelings does not mean you're trying to ignore them, you are simply giving them less of an impact on your behavior, on your mind, and on your stress levels in general. Understanding that emotions are temporary is different than not perceiving emotions at all.

Another way to know if you're disassociating or if you're mastering your emotions is to take a look at your life and mental state. Are you improving? Do you have any more control over your emotions than you did a month or two ago? One example of an improvement for me is that I've somewhat become more assertive, even if it's only mildly. I've also become less afraid to say what I want to say, again even though it's only been mild improvements so far. I've been less in need of trying to impress people, I've certainly relaxed on being Mr. Perfect. These are just some of the examples of improvements in my behaviors that show me that I am still in touch with my emotions because I've been controlling them instead of letting them control me.

/end rant.

I see controlling my emotions as controlling my emotions.
IOW, I can make myself angry, happy, sad. Just by knowing what thoughts, images, behaviors trigger them.

Emotions are "bad" when they control you, not when you control them. I always hated my emotions because they would control my behavior.

Now I am fine with my emotions. They are part of being human. I only really need to control them enough to keep me out of trouble.
 

wellwisher

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It came to me that trying to control one emotions and remaining stoic can be a slippery slope for disassociating with them. Principles I admire such as not stressing over things which we have no control over, not lusting after things for which we can never attain, using difficulties as a means of personal growth, etc. - I had to separate them from what I think is disassociating with yourself and reality.

The difference, I would say, is that controlling your emotions requires you to be aware of your feelings, truly feeling them, whereas disassociation implies that you are disconnecting from them and are trying to ignore them. Just because you are trying to alleviate your feelings does not mean you're trying to ignore them, you are simply giving them less of an impact on your behavior, on your mind, and on your stress levels in general. Understanding that emotions are temporary is different than not perceiving emotions at all.

Another way to know if you're disassociating or if you're mastering your emotions is to take a look at your life and mental state. Are you improving? Do you have any more control over your emotions than you did a month or two ago? One example of an improvement for me is that I've somewhat become more assertive, even if it's only mildly. I've also become less afraid to say what I want to say, again even though it's only been mild improvements so far. I've been less in need of trying to impress people, I've certainly relaxed on being Mr. Perfect. These are just some of the examples of improvements in my behaviors that show me that I am still in touch with my emotions because I've been controlling them instead of letting them control me.

/end rant.
When the brain writes to memory, emotional tags are added to sensory content. Our memory has both sensory content; cerebral, as well as feeling tags; limbic system. This is why our strongest and most enduring memories have the strongest feelings tags; graduation, marriage, first child, etc.

This tagging process is useful since is allows us to approach our memory from two ways; differential content side and/or from the emotional tag. This, in turn, allows one to process memory with both sides of the brain, at the same time. This overlap is why it appears the left and right brain distinction is less clear cut, based on brain scans.

The problem of approaching memory via the emotional side; emotional thinking, is there are only a finite number of emotions; tags, used for all the memory. The limited emotional tags are recycled and are used for a wide range of similar memory. The sensory content, on the other hand, is far more diverse than the emotions, and allows one to see more details, even within the same emotional tagging groups.

For example, if I asked you to list your favorite 10 foods, these will all give you a similar sense of satisfaction /enjoyment in terms of feelings. However, these can be much more varied in terms of ingredients and the style of cooking; sensory content; sight, flavor and smell.

As an alternate example, say I asked you to list all the things your fear. If you were from the political Left, this may include climate change, nuclear war, pandemics, AI, Donald Trump, etc. Where problems occur for emotional thinkers, is the recycled fear tag, from other memories, can become lumped in ways that are not rational; Trump was like Hitler and will start a nuclear war, was based on fear tags that appear to lump things together. Approaching memory from the sensory content side has the advantage of differentiating each recycled emotion, so the content does not get wrongly lumped based on emotional conditioning. The emotional thinking approach of the Left makes it easier for them to be manipulated via emotional lumping.

The DEI approach to culture; diversity, equity and inclusion, makes use of emotional thinking to confuse common sense; feeling versus sensory content. If you approach this with emotion first, it will feel good and fair. However, since emotions tend to get lump, based on political biases, this approach ignores key details, such as the equity always comes at the expense of loss equity for others. How is the tax payer included and how do they break even to make this equitable for them? Emotionally, with conditioned tagging, the tax payers owe everyone else; that feels right.

Science, which is Atheist, has led to this problem; Psychology. In one sense, it is good to know how to feel and express your emotions, but that is not the best way to think. But there is too much emphasis on emotions, to where it has made people more irrational, and far easier to manipulate with emotional lumping; white, straight, males do all the evil of the world. This may feel right to some, but it is irrational if look at from the sensory content side. Psychology needs to be less about making money, since creating problems helps their business model.

Mr Spock of Star Trek tries to suppress emotions when he thinks, to make sure he has constant access to his full sensory content data base. Ideally, you need to be able to go both ways; both sides of the brain, since the emotional side can be useful for creative lumping; integration, but only after reason is able to wade through all the details. Captain Kirk could use both sides of the brain to come up with a unique strategy. Spock, as science officer was there to make sure all the details stayed conscious.

In modern science, the affect of politics adds emotional thinking to the blend. For example, climate science constantly over estimates; over/under bets, which is used to create fear. If they under estimate or are spot on, the feelings of urgency would subside, as would the money flow. Casino science or fuzzy dice, is also there to add emotions such as uncertainty and risk; fear.
 
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