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Contrite Forgiveness

Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by Ellen Brown, Sep 6, 2018.

  1. Ellen Brown

    Ellen Brown Well-Known Member
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    Thinking about this subject, I hope that Muslims, and Jews have input, as well as any other belief that wishes to weigh in.

    As for me, having lived a Hell so much of my life, now that I seem to have found favor with the Creator, contrition for real or imagined sins comes quickly, and doubly so If I have offended.
     
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  2. Deeje

    Deeje Avid Bible Student
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    It is all he asks of us. His forgiveness is bigger than our capacity for sin.
     
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  3. whirlingmerc

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    There are 5 psalms of judgement Psalms 49 through 53 and the center Psalm 51 is on contrite forgiveness
    The center verse is 'create in me a clean heart, Oh God'

    It also was the most common prayer for people burned at the stake for their faith
    Psalm 51 - a plea for mercy based on the nature and pleasures of God
     
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  4. `mud

    `mud Just old
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    I'm sure that I shouldn't join into this thread.
    So I'll mostly just watch, I have no creator,
    none that I'll credit to, except for the Stuff,
    that Stuff from where I came, and will go.
    You are all part of that Stuff, breath in some,
    everyone here is becoming part of the all.
    We are a fundamental part of entire result.
    Go with peace and good will, I'll be gone now.
     
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    I am slowly believing God does not care whether we seek forgiveness or not, rather when we realize righteousness and wrongdoing and our actions between the two.
     
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    Our actions between the two could attain metanoia, conversion.
     
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    Nakosis Time Efficient Lollygagger
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    I don't like guilt much. I go forth into life doing what I feel is right. So at the time I've no intentions of doing bad or causing harm. Therefore what should I feel guilty about?

    Sometimes things don't go as planned, someone gets hurt. So I'll apologize for any pain they suffered but I don't feel any guilt. I was acting on the information I had at the time, so I couldn't have done anything different. I don't see a need to feel guilt.

    This whole idea of "moral guilt" I don't accept. Some ideal of who you are suppose to be, how you are supposed to behave. You are who you are, and if you are going about your business as best as you know how, how can you be held accountable for being something you are not?
     
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  8. IndigoChild5559

    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    I openly admit that there are times I put my own selfish desires above the interests of others and end up hurting them. I also sometimes put my animal instincts and immediate gratification above my overall best interest, and end up hurting myself in the long run. These things are what God calls sins, missing the mark in ways great and small.

    I like to shove the memory of doing these things down under my consciousness, but dang it all I'm just naturally a reflective person, and so they surface. When they do, I feel guilt. When I think about it being made public, I feel anticipatory shame--I probably am more concerned about what others think of me than what is healthy. But guilt on the other hand (assuming it is for things I'm actually responsible for) is healthy, because guilt motivates me to
    1. Make right what I did wrong.
    2. Change myself, so that I don't repeat the mistake.

    On the other hand, I would like to add that I have never felt condemnation from God. Don't get me wrong. When I talk with God about my life, he is brutally, brutally honest with me about things, and requires the sort of honesty from me in return that tears away my denial and all my excuses most painfully. But its always in the way a loving Father demands the truth from his child. I have to be honest, simply because he is God, and if you have ever experienced the presence of God, you know better than to lie--it's fruitless, and you simply wouldn't dare. But anyhow, in confessing my wrongs to God, his focus is always on my righting it, and in changing my behavior. Never in condemning me or pushing me away. Consequently I have learned I never need be afraid of losing his love.
     
  9. Ellen Brown

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    Mashallah, your words have blessed me. I seek to speak to him as if he is the father I did not have, and it has blessed me.
     
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