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Conservatives, what do you love about America?

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by tytlyf, Jan 21, 2021.

  1. tytlyf

    tytlyf The Mind Eye

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    Found this video and thought it laid out a good explanation of what Conservatives hate about America. To me, it seems the hate outweighs any love for America. Especially when it's broken down.

    Video on TikTok (click to play)
     
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  2. Father Heathen

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    They boast loudly about their "love" of rights and liberty; except when it comes to others saying, doing, or being sonething they don't like.
    They also boast loudly about their love of democracy; except when their favored candidate loses.
    Of course they also consider themselves the "true" patriots.
     
  3. tytlyf

    tytlyf The Mind Eye

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    did vid work for u?
     
  4. Father Heathen

    Father Heathen Veteran Member

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    Yes. Good luck getting any honest, straitforward answer.
     
  5. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    You've made it clear that you don't want to have
    any discussion with them. Why would they come
    to an echo chamber that hates them, eh.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Wow! Just like the Democrats!
     
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    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    Click not working for me.
     
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    Let's not pretend that conservatives have a monopoly on hatred.

    Besides the fact that conservatives would be likely to disagree with 99% of the rhetoric in this video ... conservatives could make the same video about liberals.

    The powers that shouldn't be insure that fear and hatred rule modern politics because that's how they control everyone.
     
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    What do I love about the US?
    Nothing, I do not love a nation as a concept.

    I support it, abide by its laws because I live here and feel an obligation to do so. If I moved to a different country, I'd feel the same obligation.

    We exist as a community, part of a civilization. Survival requires that we work together as best we are able. This does not require a feeling of love.
     
  10. ADigitalArtist

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    What parts of the video do you specifically disagree with? If it used toned down language like 'don't like' or 'disagree with' would that change?

    Or what if it said, for example, 'many Republicans are traditionally in favor of the military but consistently vote against veterans benefits' / 'in favor of America's natural beauty and outdoorsman but consistently vote against environmental efforts to keep American outdoors clean and accessible.'
     
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  11. Father Heathen

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    I don't hate anyone, and I would love to have a discussion; an honest and straitforward one. I'm rightfully weary of the typical mental gymnastics performed around the bush.
     
  12. Revoltingest

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    Is giving the appearance of hatred (by posting
    such derision) functionally different from hate?
     
  13. Father Heathen

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    I think people should be able to believe, say, and do as they please as long as they don't victimze or violate the rights of others in the process. I would also never cry like a ***** and make false accusations of cheating just because the guy I voted for lost.
     
  14. Father Heathen

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    Here, this will counteract it: :hugehug:
     
  15. Father Heathen

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    @74x12 , what did you find funny about post #14?
     
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    It's a rather simplistic picture of conservatives, to be fair.

    "You hate most of the people who live here."

    I mean...really, though? When I was conservative, I certainly didn't.

    "You hate the civil liberties afforded by the Constitution."

    No, they don't. They have a different interpretation of the civil liberties afforded by the Constitution. Quite often I actually hear the same from conservatives, talking about liberals, that libs allegedly hate freedom of speech, or the 2nd Amendment.

    These are all caricatures, that knock down the weakest strawman of what one's opponent thinks.

    Why do that?
     
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    Please help me here.... is the guy on the video a conservative?
     
  18. Revoltingest

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    I'm not offended.
    You ought to offer that to the conservatives.
     
  19. Father Heathen

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    Perhaps we all tend to resort to generalizations, oversimplifications, stereotypes, strawmen, etc. when it comes to the "other side".

    But do we do so in equal proportion? ;)
     
  20. Father Heathen

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    'K.

    Conservatives. Come forth and receive a hug. :glomp:
     
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