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Conservative Source: Mr. Trump is in Trouble

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Sunstone, May 28, 2020.

  1. Sunstone

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    Excerpted from The Hill, a reliable, albeit conservative source of news and analysis:

    Trump has falsely insinuated that Scarborough was involved in the death of a staffer in 2001, at a time when the anchor was a Republican congressman from Florida.

    The deceased woman, Lori Klausutis, was 28 when she died after collapsing, apparently as a result of an undiagnosed heart condition, and striking her head.

    Despite that, Trump has continued to raise the issue. On Wednesday morning, he tweeted again about “Psycho Joe Scarborough” purportedly being “rattled” by “all of the things and facts that are coming out.”

    A Republican strategist with ties to the White House was among those who expressed concern.

    “It really feels out of place and extremely inappropriate for what we are dealing with as a country,” this strategist told The Hill.

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    The Scarborough attacks are seen by some as an attempt to divert public attention from the coronavirus crisis.

    Trump has intensified his attacks and smears on Scarborough just as the deaths in the United States from COVID-19 reach 100,000. More than 38 million people have filed new unemployment claims since the crisis began. The unemployment rate is now 14.7 percent, significantly above its worst levels during the Great Recession a decade ago.

    Those problems are compounded by a slide in the opinion polls for the president. Not only is Trump trailing presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden in head-to-head polls, but there is also concern in Trump’s orbit about voters’ views of the country’s direction.

    A new Economist-YouGov poll released Wednesday showed just 31 percent of Americans believing the nation was on the right track, compared to 60 percent who believe it is on the wrong track. Even some longtime Trump allies believe those kinds of numbers pose a real problem for an incumbent president seeking reelection.

    But even if Trump is using the Scarborough matter as a self-ignited fire to distract from other problems, there are real questions as to how effective that could be.

    “I’ve no doubt he is under a lot of pressure,” said Conant. “I can’t speak to his psychology. I don’t know how he reacts to that. But if I were giving him advice, I would tell him to focus 100 percent on the economy and the pandemic and leave Twitter to the trolls.”

    Others in Trump World worry that the president is retreating back into a comfort world of Twitter fights and television feuds because the challenges facing him seem so overwhelming.
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  2. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    I saw a post by Ms. Klausutis' husband about this yesterday, he's very upset about what trump has said.
     
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  3. Sunstone

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    Indeed, he is asking Mr. Trump to quit using the memory of his deceased wife for personal political gain.
     
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  4. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    And fair enough
     
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  5. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    One can understand why he'd want to divert attention, or do anything possible to avoid defeat in the next election. After all, while a sitting President doesn't seem to be indictable...
     
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    Let's see what November brings.
     
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    Yes it's the Dead Cat strategy, no question. He's tried a series of these in the last couple of weeks, from "Obamagate" to this ridiculous attack on Twitter. But this latest insinuation of murder seems quite unhinged.
     
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  8. Sunstone

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    There seems to be a balancing act here. On the one hand, we must avoid the belief that Mr. Trump is invulnerable. On the other hand, we must equally avoid the belief that his defeat is inevitable. Both beliefs encourage apathy, and that apathy works out in Mr. Trump's favor.
     
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    Another "fine" example of "Trump just being Trump".

    However, as we've repeatedly seen, the "religious" right will still support him, thus no Judeo-Christian ethics needed.
     
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  10. Sunstone

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    I think the right is obsessed with the abortion issue and unable to think past it. Consequently, it has not only forgotten its own larger religious values, but also any civic or 'American' values that it may have once cherished. e.g. The Constitution might as well be a fading legend or myth to it these days.
     
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  11. sun rise

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    The country will face a stark choice. Keep the Constitution hating and lie loving autocrat in power along with his sycophants and power made Senators or turn back to the America which has ideals and aspirations and works to be better.
     
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    I actually don't think it's about abortion any more. It's about loving autocracy and thinking that if the left wants the truth the Trump party will celebrate the autocrat and demand the right to lie.
     
  13. metis

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    The irony is that according to Chief Justice John Roberts, who's a "pro-life" Catholic, Roe v Wade is now part of the "law of the land", as he put it, and is unlikely to be ever overturned, plus he added that the American public is not behind ending it.

    My point is that why are all so many of them willing to overlook most or all of the other pro-life issues for just this one that is not likely to be overturned anyway? What about capital punishment? healthcare? racism? income inequality? war? etc.

    IMO, the "religious right" has been "played" by secular right-wing politicians and their media, thus using abortion as the "bait" while ignoring other pro-life issues.
     
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  14. Sunstone

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    If you're interested, you should read up on the early history of the anti-abortion movement perhaps beginning with Jerry Falwell's role in it. It's quite instructive.

    Prior to Falwell, Evangelicals and fundamentalists were largely of a mind to leave abortion up to the woman's conscience. The Southern Baptists had even adopted that as their official position. The political issue that most riled up Evangelicals and fundamentalists was not abortion, but segregation.

    Then segregation suffered a decisive defeat (I forget exactly which Supreme Court case was involved). Falwell -- and many other leaders -- were shocked that their church coffers might dry up because they well knew segregation had been filling them. A great wailing and gnashing of teeth rose from among the Evangelical leadership.

    Fortunately, Roe v Wade arrived just in time. But at first, only Falwell grasped that it was a gold mine. He went to work sharing the Good News with other Evangelical leaders in phone calls, meetings, at conferences, etc. Before long, they all came out swinging against the 'murder of babies in their mother's wombs'. Soon, the church coffers began to fill, and everyone was once again happy and blessed in the ways of the Lord.
     
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  15. Nowhere Man

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    Biden is not your man either in that regard.

    Personally I think we're pretty much screwed as a country no matter how it's being looked at.

    I go with Jay.

    Let's see what November brings and I'd like to add, don't forget the helmet.
     
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    Nay, sez I (and my wife). To understand Don Pendejo's "Scarborough attacks", one needs to know that Joe Scarborough (a former Republican Florida Congressman) and Trump know each other and that Joe and his wife, Mika Brezinski, have regularly and frequently mocked, skewered, and roasted Trump on their daily, early morning MSNBC "Morning Joe" Program. From the beginning of the Coronvirus Pandemic, Joe and Mika have been merciless in their anti-Trump attacks, driving Trump nuts. With the rapid rise in American deaths, Joe and Mika's attacks grew even more fervent. (Yes, I know, as hard as it is to believe that their fervency could increase, it did, as my wife and I witnessed while watching their show).

    Trump has taken twitter jabs at them often, but they finally harpooned him royally, and the "wounded boar" grabbed at the only thing he could think of to strike back: the death of one of Joe's staffers while he was a Congressman. Hell hath no fury as Trump scorned. And, God, how Joe and Mika scorned him. Joe has this fascinating thing he does when he's on TV: he lectures, mocks, and insults Trump as if the two were standing/sitting face-to-face. Watching him, my wife and I swore we could hear the sizzling of Trump's bacon in the frying pan all the way out here in Los Angeles, ... and we laughed in delight every minute.

    Trump Pushes a Conspiracy Theory That Falsely Accuses a TV Host of Murder
     
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    The Trump presidency has devolved into a bad episode of The Twilight Zone. And... when AnnCoulter turns on a sitting GOP president, you know somethings off-kilter. Ann Coulter Turns on ‘Disloyal Actual Retard’ Trump in Twitter Rant
     
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    Democrat Mike Turpin on the channel four debate show Flash Point, said to his opponent a couple of Sundays ago regarding abortion; "Republicans are not "'pro-life', they are 'pro-birth'. To clarify, he said that the same GOP congressman who fights against abortion will also fight just as hard to prevent the passing of any bill that would help an impoverished mother provide for that same child."
     
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    Will Trump care? Will his Trumpeters care? These are people who, afterall, poloticized the troops to turn a peaceful protest during the national anthem into a major fiasco.
     
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    I do remember Falwell quite well, but I was not aware of this connection, so thanks.

    BTW, I worked for a short while with one of Falwell's nieces who used to go every summer to his home and stay with them for a while. She said that Falwell's wife was basically a "saint", but she sure didn't have the same kind of nice words for him, let me tell ya.
     
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