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conservative party accused of 'fundamental' failure" over islamaphobia

Discussion in 'European Politics' started by England my lionheart, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. England my lionheart

    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    This is quite interesting.

    Mohammed Amin: It is time to abandon the word “Islamophobia"
    Modern usage of “Islamophobia” comes from the 1997 report by the Commission on British Muslims and Islamophobia: Islamophobia: A Challenge for Us All.

    I wrote in 2012 that the report was seriously flawed, because it conflates attitudes towards Islam and attitudes towards Muslims. Re-reading the report while composing this article I noted that it does not contain a short, quotable definition of “Islamophobia”; perhaps one of the many disadvantages of committee authorship.

    Subsequently, there have been attempts to steer the word Islamophobia away from its somewhat nebulous Runnymede 2017 definition, and instead to use it as a shorthand for reprehensible behaviours such as:

    • anti-Muslim hatred,
    • anti-Muslim bigotry,
    • anti-Muslim prejudice,
    • anti-Muslim discrimination.
    However, when people seek to use “Islamophobia” as a shorthand for the above behaviours, others respond by asserting their freedom to have negative views of Islam, and profess a legitimate fear of Islam, thereby harking back to the original meaning of “Islamophobia” as understood by the Runnymede 2017 report.

    Source https://www.conservativehome.com/pl...is-time-to-abandon-the-word-islamophobia.html
     
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    I don't have a problem at all with that.
    Perhaps we should adopt the phrase 'Muslimophobia'. or 'Dark skinned Asianophobia' - whichever, it is endemic in the Tory party.
     
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    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    Let's face it,both parties have a problem with this kind of prejudice.
     
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    Who is the Home Secretary?

    You cannot get much higher than that in the Tory party, but he is still in the running to do so.
     
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    Oh, I don't dispute that.
     
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    That's like the racist comment, "But some of my best friends are black"
     
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    It is an inconvenient fact that the Left would rather ignore.
     
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    The Emperor of Mankind Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic

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    Mine too.


    Obama got into the Oval Office but that doesn't change the fact the States had problems with societal racism during his tenure.
     
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    Maybe they just did not like what he was doing for them.

    Believe it or not, some do not like what the current president is doing.
     
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    No, it is a fact that there are asians within the Tory party. May had very few left and he was 3rd choice.

    Ask Baroness Warsi what she thinks of her party's treatment of Muslims.
     
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    The Tory party has treated her very well. Peerages are not ten a penny.

    I prefer Priti Patel.
     
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    ALL MP's and their hanger's on are buyable.
     
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    Obama was between a rock and a hard place. The flip side was the messiah or savior complex people projected which expected him to bring "them out of Egypt" so to speak
     
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    This is more of a slap to the UN than Muslims. After all which side caved? Muslims or the UN? It was the latter.
     
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    I'm not familiar with this, can you say a little more? thanks
     
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  20. The Emperor of Mankind

    The Emperor of Mankind Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic

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    I agree. My point was to counter NAN's claim that the Tories can't possibly be racist because Sajid Javid is the Home Secretary


    I agree with this also. It doesn't make any sense at all. Those members should be summarily removed from the HRC but who has the backbone to do it?

    A plan that has obviously failed as utter tyrannies now take their place on the HRC and lecture other countries on what constitutes a breach of human rights. We have governments like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia & China on the HRC. It is an obscenity. What's worse is they can use their presence on the council to bolster their international persona - "look, we're on the Human Rights Council so obviously we have a track record as a tolerant nation".

    EDIT: Sorry @Firemorphic, you probably got an alert telling you I quoted you only to find this post doesn't mention you. I had a response planned for something you said but I'll move it to a dedicated post.
     
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