Conservative Heresies: What is a real Christian?

[angellous_evangellous]

Anything other than those 2 quotes I posted, I feel, is irrelevant.

I'm not sure whether we should laugh or cry.

Well, both of these fellers are laughing, but I'm sure that it's not for the same reason.
:seesaw:

 

[Mister_T]

This pretty much sums up what a Christian is to me. These quotes are the foundation of my beliefs. I don't waste my time worrying about what version of Christianity people are following. Doing so serves no fruitful purpose and creates division, anger, and sometimes hatred. Anything other than those 2 quotes I posted, I feel, is irrelevant.

Correction: Pasted

 

[Mister_T]

I'm not sure whether we should laugh or cry.

Well, both of these fellers are laughing, but I'm sure that it's not for the same reason.
:seesaw:

You could both for all I care. Your actions are what counts.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

You could both for all I care. Your actions are what counts.

Laughing is an action you dumb cracker...

 

[Mister_T]

Laughing is an action you dumb cracker...

How do you know I'm white?

 

[Scuba Pete]

The problem is that the term "Christian" begs a different definition than "follower." Jesus didn't define his followers, other than the fact that they followed him.

John 13:34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." NIV

Jesus defined discipleship quite clearly.

 

[Squirt]

That's not a conservative heresy, which is essential to the OP. Just because I have heard others commit heresies in their definition of a "real" Christian does not mean that I am willing to stretch the defintions of Christ, God, and the Holy Spirit to include anyone who wants to redefine those terms, be they LDS, Rhastafarians, or anyone else who wishes to make up definitions to those terms that are mutually exclusive of normative traditional Christianity.

Tell me, AE, when you and God sat down together and wrote the rules, who had the final say -- you or Him? Your problem is that you simply cannot see beyond your own personal biases. I hate to burst your bubble, but you have no more right than the next person to define the word "Christian." You don't have to like my addition to your little list of "conservative heresies," but I'm telling it way I see it. All you've done is compiled a list outlining your own prejudices. If you don't want people to debate your position, don't ask for their input. The bottom line is this: You define a "Christian" in one way and, in your opinion, I don't qualify. I define a "Christian" in another way and, in my opinion, you don't qualify. It's no more complicated than that.

 

[Mister_T]

John 13:34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." NIV

Jesus defined discipleship quite clearly.

That's what I was trying to say.

 

[Squirt]

That's what I was trying to say.

Well then, you, NetDoc and I appear to agree on this. Would anyone else care to join us?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Tell me, AE, when you and God sat down together and wrote the rules, who had the final say -- you or Him? Your problem is that you simply cannot see beyond your own personal biases. I hate to burst your bubble, but you have no more right than the next person to define the word "Christian." You don't have to like my addition to your little list of "conservative heresies," but I'm telling it way I see it. All you've done is compiled a list outlining your own prejudices. If you don't want people to debate your position, don't ask for their input. The bottom line is this: You define a "Christian" in one way and, in your opinion, I don't qualify. I define a "Christian" in another way and, in my opinion, you don't qualify. It's no more complicated than that.

We can add that one definition (LDS) has no demonstratable connection to Christian history whatsoever, and therefore does not have any meaningful realtionship to the word 'Christian.'

 

[angellous_evangellous]

:ignore:

 

[sojourner]

John 13:34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." NIV

Jesus defined discipleship quite clearly.

And to be a disciple is to follow the example and teaching of your master: Jesus loved, so we love, too.

But that doesn't address the fact that being a Christian and being a follower may mean two different things.

 

[Squirt]

We can add that one definition (LDS) has no demonstratable connection to Christian history whatsoever, and therefore does not have any meaningful realtionship to the word 'Christian.'

You've obviously missed the whole point of our Savior's message, AE. What a shame.

 

[fredmatthew25]

Jesus said follow me. The early church members were called Christians. The Bible teaches quite clearly what it is to be a Christian.

"In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, Charity." -Alexander Campbell

 

[fredmatthew25]

Regarding your list of heresies...some of those items listed are meant to be adhered to by people of the faith-tithing being one of them. Some of the other things like hating homosexuals and some of the other things mentioned-while the Bible teaches against homosexuality, (yes, it really does we are still supposed to ask these people into a right relationship with Christ.

I think one of the problems today is that the term Christian is used to broadly (It encompases too many people who are lost and far from the truth.)

 

[angellous_evangellous]

You've obviously missed the whole point of our Savior's message, AE. What a shame.

:faint: Will you ever tire of using God's name as a missle?

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30963

 

[Squirt]

:faint: Will you ever tire of using God's name as a missle?

I've never done it yet, and there's no chance I'm going to. I don't believe in that. But when you start acting like the good Christian you claim to be, I'll probably stop harrassing you.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I've never done it yet, and there's no chance I'm going to. I don't believe in that. But when you start acting like the good Christian you claim to be, I'll probably stop harrassing you.

Christian :slap: LDS Christian

 

[Squirt]

Christian :slap: LDS Christian

Well, you know I always figure that "real" Christians are bound by Jesus' commandment to do until others as you would have them do unto you. I'm just assuming that you're treating me the way you'd want me to treat you. Did I miss something?

 

[nutshell]

Squirt,

Just walk away. Lets "turn the other cheek" and let AE slap us around somemore if he wishes, but lets not stoop to his level any longer.

Sincerely,

-nutshell