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Conquering yourself

Spinoza tsu

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Does anybody knows if the idea(a quote will be usefull) of conquring yourself exists in the hindu scriptures?
(for example the analects:"To subdue one's self and return to propriety, is perfect virtue"
and the tao te ching"One who conquers himself is all powerfull"
and the mishna"Who is mighty? One who conquers their impulse to evil")
Thanks.
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
Does anybody knows if the idea(a quote will be usefull) of conquring yourself exists in the hindu scriptures?
(for example the analects:"To subdue one's self and return to propriety, is perfect virtue"
and the tao te ching"One who conquers himself is all powerfull"
and the mishna"Who is mighty? One who conquers their impulse to evil")
Thanks.
The Taoist would say to leave the dualities behind and return to the Tao.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Does anybody knows if the idea(a quote will be usefull) of conquring yourself exists in the hindu scriptures?
(for example the analects:"To subdue one's self and return to propriety, is perfect virtue"
and the tao te ching"One who conquers himself is all powerfull"
and the mishna"Who is mighty? One who conquers their impulse to evil")
Thanks.

I gather that you are speaking in terms of conquering the ego self through understanding of the higher Self? If so, Chapter 6 of the Bhagavad Gita might apply, specifically Verses 3 through 7.

Srimad-Bhagavad-Gita: Sixth Chapter. The Way of Meditation
 

sayak83

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Staff member
Premium Member
Does anybody knows if the idea(a quote will be usefull) of conquring yourself exists in the hindu scriptures?
(for example the analects:"To subdue one's self and return to propriety, is perfect virtue"
and the tao te ching"One who conquers himself is all powerfull"
and the mishna"Who is mighty? One who conquers their impulse to evil")
Thanks.
Something like this?

Know the atman (Self) to be the master of the chariot; the body, chariot; the intellect, the charioteer; and the mind, the reins.
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The senses, they say, are the horses; the objects, the roads. The wise call the atman-united with the body, the senses and the mind-the enjoyer.

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If the buddhi (intellect) being related to a mind that is always distracted, loses its discriminations, then the senses become uncontrolled, like the vicious horses of a charioteer.

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But if the buddhi, being related to a mind that is always restrained, possesses discrimination, then the senses come under control, like the good horses of a charioteer.

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If the buddhi, being related to a distracted mind, loses its discrimination and therefore always remains impure, then the embodied soul never attains the goal, but enters into the round of births.

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But if the buddhi, being related to a mind that is restrained, possesses discrimination and therefore always remains pure, then the embodied soul attains that goal from which he is not born again.

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A man who has discrimination for his charioteer and holds the reins of the mind firmly, reaches the end of the road; and that is the supreme position of Vishnu.


Katha Upansad.
 

ajay0

Well-Known Member
Here's one from the Yoga Vasistha text depicting the discussion between Rishi Vasistha and prince Rama.

Those who fight boldly in battlefields and withstand war elephants are not so very brave, in my opinion, as those who withstand the surges of the mind amidst the streams of carnal appetites.
- Sri Rama ( Yoga Vasistha)
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Does anybody knows if the idea(a quote will be usefull) of conquring yourself exists in the hindu scriptures?
(for example the analects:"To subdue one's self and return to propriety, is perfect virtue"
and the tao te ching"One who conquers himself is all powerfull"
and the mishna"Who is mighty? One who conquers their impulse to evil")
Thanks.
Hildegard von debingen said"wes can not live in an interpreted world for an interpreted world is not home." cathloic nun so relevant but not directly hindu.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
for once I'm not sure if my favored quote will work here!!!!!!!

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

at this moment.....would such practice be considered a surrendering of self for another?
 

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
Does anybody knows if the idea(a quote will be usefull) of conquring yourself exists in the hindu scriptures?
(for example the analects:"To subdue one's self and return to propriety, is perfect virtue"
and the tao te ching"One who conquers himself is all powerfull"
and the mishna"Who is mighty? One who conquers their impulse to evil")
Thanks.

Depending on religion.

-The Muslims say jihad has something to do with conquering oneself.
-Which looks very different from Christian fasting and meditation.
-Which looks different from Buddhist idea of no-self, despite a possible common element of fasting.
-Which looks different from the Jewish ideal, which is to understand that God is One, and we are to abstain from evil and follow laws.
-Which looks different from Confucian ideal that were are to understand our place in society.
-Which is different from Taoism and its returning to balance, and stop trying to conquer in the first place.

They are saying the same thing, but the result is wildly different.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Does anybody knows if the idea(a quote will be usefull) of conquring yourself exists in the hindu scriptures?
(for example the analects:"To subdue one's self and return to propriety, is perfect virtue"
and the tao te ching"One who conquers himself is all powerfull"
and the mishna"Who is mighty? One who conquers their impulse to evil")
Thanks.

I don;t know but dying self is Christian, in some sense. And paradoxically it is also the best thing you can do for yourself with the most joy to be had
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Does anybody knows if the idea(a quote will be usefull) of conquring yourself exists in the hindu scriptures?
(for example the analects:"To subdue one's self and return to propriety, is perfect virtue"
and the tao te ching"One who conquers himself is all powerfull"
and the mishna"Who is mighty? One who conquers their impulse to evil")
Thanks.
Vedanta teaches the underlying unity of the apparent multiplicity of reality, so the idea of conquering oneself is rather a matter of realization of what and who one really is. Meditation is the religious practice to realize Brahman, by stilling the mind, the ego self which perceives reality dualistically does not arise to disturb the oneness.
 
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