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Confucius taught great principles that are harmonious with eastern religeons, look in

Discussion in 'Dharmic Religions DIR' started by God is love, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. God is love

    God is love Active Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    The principles that Confucius taught coexists with any Eastern Religeon in a complementary way. It is lived in syncretism. It is also harmoious with Christianity.
    Confucius said society is made up of five relationships:
    1. Husband and Wife
    2. Parent and Child
    3. Friend to Friend
    4. Elders to Younsters
    5. Rulers to Subjects or Ministers

    I want to see if this transfers through before I write more because I wrote this before but it didn't transfer.
  2. God is love

    God is love Active Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    Confucius said Jen, {Social Goodness}, are the supreme virtues that help social harmony and peace.
    These are:

    A. Sincerity
    B. Respectfulness
    C. Magnanity {Generosity}
    D. Charity
    E. Loving Kindness
    F. Deligence
    G. Shu or Altruism

    The Universal Virtues are:

    1. Benevolence, Sincerity and Kindness {Jen Virtues}

    Confucius said benevolence is to love all mankind

    2. Generosity of soul {the perfect virtue}

    3. Wisdom

    4. Fortitude

    5. Earnestness

    Confucius believed we should do unto others as we would have them do unto us like Buddhism and Christianity. There have been prophets of God who have echoed these through the years in their addresses during conferences of the Church of Jesus Christ of latterday saints.

    Confucius exhorted people to develope good character which he said was the best of all virtues. Part of cultivating character is purity of heart like Buddhism and Christianity.

    He suggested steps for self development in this order:
    1. Investigation of Phenomena
    2. Learning
    3. Sincerity
    4. Rectitude of Purpose
    5. Self Development
    6.Family discipline
    7. local Self Government
    8. Universal Self Government

    Part 2
    "One of the beleifs of Confucius is Hsiao, love within Family"
    To Follow
  3. God is love

    God is love Active Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    Love of parents for children and Love of children for parents.

    Prophets of God have spoken volumes on that very subject
    I have have gleaned from their addresses to comment on various topics. I discovered their addresses that were compiled into books at a bookstore while passing through Salt Lake City during a road trip.

    As regarding the Husband and Wife relationship, one of the five relationships Confucius said made up society.

    These are what I found:

    1. Spouses should control their temper and guard their speech and try to remain calm.

    2. Develope a capacity to communicate to eachother, cultivate effective communication

    3. Discuss problems, work towards solutions

    4. Differences should be worked out in love

    5.Make plans together, cooperate towards common objectives.

    6. Be considerate of eachother

    7. Show courtesy towards eachother

    8. Respect eachother

    9. Be sensitive to eachother's feelings

    10. Have kindly regard one for the other

    11. Husbands and Wives are equal partners

    12. Be true to each other, honest, a Xin value

    13. Be loyal to each other

    14. Be helpmates to each other

    15. Husbands should provide a home for their families and make them comfortable and add to their family's happiness and well being.

    16. A Husband should provide for the material needs of his family which makes the Mother nourishing her children possible.
    The prophets have emphasized the importance of Mothers staying home to nurture and train children.

    17. A Wife should be a joy to her Husband and delight in her husband

    18. Cultivate the principles that promote one another's happiness

    19 A home should be a haven for peace.

    20. Be kind to each other

    21. Express love to each other

    22. Have the same courtesy in your homes that you have when you are out in society.

    Part 3
    "Confucius said the sixth step for self development is family discipline"
    To Follow
  4. God is love

    God is love Active Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    Prophets of God have supplied methods for this as well;

    1. "A child left to himself bringeth shame"
    Proverb 29:15 {in bible} quoted in a prophet's address
    As mentioned earlier, a Mother should stay in the home to nurture and train their children.

    2. Every child is entitled to security in the home, to feel secure. Children are secure, feel secure, if they feel thay are loved by their parents. Protect your children

    3. A Mother should nurture in body, mind and spirit

    4. Parents should provide wholesome food that will nourish them.
    See that they are warmly clad {when it's cold}

    5. See that they have plenty of rest

    6.See that only good material {books, music,radio, t.v, movies} enters your home.
    Guard against programs that degrade.
    Seek what is good, good literature, music, movies, that promote good.

    7. In training children, parents should not provoke their children to wrath.
    Ephesians 6:4
    "Fathers, provoke not your children to wrath..."

    8. Let your children talk to you about what they would like to say, let them ask questions of you

    9. Be honest with them, a Xin value

    10. Keep your promises to them
    Reciprocate Trust thay have in you
    Be Trustworthy, another Xin valyue

    11. Be courteous to your children such as plaese and thankyou, excuse me. This will help them become courteous by your example.

    12. Encourage children to do good, support them

    13. Praise them when they do right +++

    14. The best time to teach a child obedience is between 2-4 years old. It is then the child should learn to conform to home conditions
    Proverbs 22:6
    "Trai up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it."

    15. repetition is a key to learning

    Part 4 "Teaching Children" to follow
  5. God is love

    God is love Active Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    Teach Children:

    1. not to quarrel with each other

    2. to love each other

    3. to be courteous and respectful to parents

    4. teach self respect

    5. self control and how to behave in public

    6. The prophets in their addresses want to impress upon the minds of youth to regard themselves by keeping themselves pure.

    21. Girls should be taught modesty

    22. Teach children honesty and integrity, fair play, a Xin Virtue

    23. Teah children that they have liberty of action as long as they do not trespass upon the rights and priviledges of others. Teach them to respect other's rights

    24. Teach them to be courteous to their brothers and sisters, to respect each other

    25.to respect the elderly
    Confucius taught the same principle

    26. They should be taught to respect all mankind

    27. Teach children to be law abiding

    28. Teach charity, another Confucius principle

    29 Teach deference

    30 Teach them by word and deed, by your example

    31. If children stray, continue to teach them

    1 Nephi 8:37-38 {Another Testement of Jesus Christ}
    "And he did exhort them then with all the feeling of a tender parent, that they would hearken to his words, that perhaps the Lord would be merciful to them and not cast them off, yea, my father did preach unto them. And after he has preached unto them and also prophesied unto them of many things, he bade them to keep the commandments of the Lord..."

    Mosiah 1:4 {Anpother testement of Jesus Christ}
    "For it were not possible that our father Lehi could have remembered all these things, to have taught them to his children, except it were for the help of these plates, for he having been taught in the language of the Egyptians therefore he could read these engravings and teach them to his children that thereby they could teach them to their children and so fulfuilling the commandments of God, even down to the present time."

    Alma 36:3 {Another Testement of Jesus Christ}
    "And now, my son, Helaman, behold, thou art in thy youth and therefore, I beseech of thee that thou wilt hear my words and learn of me, for I do know that whosoever shall put their trust in God shall be supported in their trials and their troubles and their afflictions and shall be lifted up at the last day."

    Alma 39:3-4,11 {Another Testement of Jesus Christ}
    "Thou didst do that which is grievous unto me, for thou didst forsake the ministry and did go over into the land of Siron among the borders of the Lamanites, after the harlot, Isabel. She did steal away the hearts of many but this was no excuse for thee, my son. Thou shouldst have tended to the ministry wherewith thou wast entrusted."
    "Suffer not yourself to be led away by any vain or foolish thing, suffer not the devil to lead away your heart again after those wicked harlots. Behold, my son, how great iniquity ye brought upon the Zoramites for when they saw your conduct, they would not believe in my words."

    32. Teach them to love good for the sake of the good +++

    33. Teach them that they can not commit sin without violating their conscience

    34.Let them do housework to develope responsibility

    35. Teach them to help the helpless and infirm

    36. Teach them to help the poor and those that need sympathy

    37. Tell your children you love them

    38. Have family Home Evening, an evening with your children one day of the week to talk to them and teach them and have fum with them

    Part 5
    "Regarding the Friend to friend relationship and Youngsters relating to to elders"
    To Follow
  6. God is love

    God is love Active Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    One of the recommendations of some prophets to members of the church is to have a year's supply of food storage for family preparedness if there might be an even such as a hurricane or earthquake that would obstruct access to food. Care should be taken that it doesn't spoil. Some members grow their own foor such as vegeatbles and fruit in their yards and what they can they preserve, store in jars made for that purpose with the proper lid for sealing.

    As regarding the third and fourth kind of relationship, that of Friend to Friend and Youngster to Elder, the Jen social values apply as well.

    Principles that have to do with Jen virtues in relation to others, that I am familiar with, are in the bible and nother testement of Jesus Christ as well as the revelations of the prophets.

    These are:

    1. Be angry {righteous indignation} but sin not
    let not the sun go down upon your wrath
    Ephesians 4:26

    2. Speak every man truth with his neighbor
    Ephesians 4:25
    a Xin virtue

    3. Keep all your pledges one with another
    Doctrines and Covenants 136:20 {revelations from the Lord to the prophet Joseph Smith}

    4. If thou borrowest of thy neighbor, thou shalt restore that which thou hast borrowed
    Doctrines and Covenants 136:25

    5. Remember them which suffer adversity as being yourselves
    Hebrews 13:3 {in the bible}

    6. Comfort the feebl minded, support the weak,
    be patiant toward all men
    1 Thessalonians 5:14 {in bible}

    7. Ye ought to support the weak
    Acts 20:34-35 {in bible}

    8. Bear one another's burdens
    Galations 6:2 {in bible}

    9. Visit the sick
    Matthew 25:36 {in bible}

    10. As a family visit sick relatives, friends, the lonely, share food

    11.If any man shall give unto you a coat or a suit, take the old and cast it unto the poor
    Doctrines and Covenants 84:105

    12. Clothe the naked
    Matthew Chapter 25 {in bible}

    13. Clothe yourselves with charity
    Doctrines and Covenants 124:116

    14. Feed the hungry, Give drink to the thirsty
    Matthew 25:35 {in bible}

    15. When thou makest a meal {feast}, call the poor, the maimed, the lame and the blind
    Luke 14:13-14

    16. Charity edifieth
    1 Corinthians 8:1

    17. Silver and gold, have I none, but such as I have, give I thee
    Acts 3:6 {in bible}

    18. For if there be first a WILLING MIND, it is accepted according to that a man hath
    2 Corinthians 8:12 {in bible}

    19. Remember the poor and consecrate of thy properties for their support
    Doctrines and Covenants 42:30

    20. Plead the cause of the poor and needy
    Doctrines and Covenants 124:75

    21. I was a stranger and you took me in
    Matthew 25:35 {in bible}

    22. Be ye merciful
    Luke 6:36 {in bible}

    23. Whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them
    Matthew 7:12 {in bible}

    24. In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor
    Leviticus 19:15 {in bible}

    25. Let every man esteem his brother as himself and practice virtue
    Doctrines and Covenants 38:24

    26. Let thy love abound unto all men
    Doctrines and Covenants 112:11

    Confucius taught the same
    Part six
    "Charity and the Good Samaritan"
    To Follow
  7. God is love

    God is love Active Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    Charity is Love
    2 nephi 26:30
    "The Lord God hath given a commandment that all men should have charity, which charity is love."

    A. thinketh no evil
    B. is not easily provoked
    C. is not indecent
    D. is not puffed up {doesn't vaunt itself}
    E. Charity is kind
    1 Corinthians 13:3-8

    27. Let brotherly love {charity} continue
    Hebrews 13:1 {in bible}

    28. If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him and if he repent, forgive him
    Luke 17:3 {in bible}

    29. Put on mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness. Forbearing one another. Above all these things, put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness
    Colossians 3:12-14 {in bible}

    The story of the "Good Samaritan"

    Jesus said "A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho and fell among thieves which stripped him of his raiment and wounded him and departed, leaving him half dead. By chance there came down a certain priest that way and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. A certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was and when he saw him, he had compassion on him and went to him and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine and set him on his own beast and brought him to an inn and took care of him. On the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence and gave them to the host and said unto him, Take care of him and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee. Which now thinkest thou was charitable unto him that fell among theives?"

    Confucius taight the Xin virtues,Honesty and Trustworthiness mentioned by the prophets addresses as to how we should treat our spouses and children and also how we should treat others.

    Other virtues that confucius taught are:

    A. Integrity

    B. Propriety

    C. Filial Piety

    D. Being Just

    E. Being Humble

    Confucius said "A person who possesses all these virtues becomes Chun-Tze, a perfect gentleman

    One of Confucius' values is Yi {righteousness}

    Confucius said "A way to please God is through Good Conduct"

    The Lord loves righteousness

    Confucius believed that the nature of man is inclined towards goodness.
    That is optimistic! I want to believe this.

    He taught that every man should attempt to reach the ideal, the perfection of goodness, by possessing a noble character and continuing to live a virtuous life.

    Part 7
    "Chung, Confucius said "The ruler himself should be virtuous, just, honest, dutiful"
    To Follow
  8. God is love

    God is love Active Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    Confucius advocated a gaovernment in which the sovereign is benevolent and honorable and the subjects are respectful and obedient. {that is if the sovereign is benevolent and honorable. He said "The ruler himself should be virtuous, just, honest, dutiful"

    The Church of Jesus Christ of latterday saints official statement to it members is that the church does not propmote either political party {democrate or republican}. Members as individuals should vote for who they think would be best. Members should not campaign at church for either candidate or party.

    Official statement of the Church of Jesus Christ of latterday saints "The church out of respect for the rights of all it's members to have their political views, must maintain the strictest possible neutrality"

    The church recommends:

    1. Studying the platforms of the candidates

    2. Praying to the Lord for guidance

    3. Going to the polls and voting what his/her conscience believes, {believes to be right}

    4.4. To stand for right and for those things that are good

    "He that ruleth over man must be just"
    2 Samuel 23:3 {in bible}

    Confucius agrees as said earlier "The ruler himself should be virtuous, just, honest, dutiful"

    Prophets in their addresses have said this;

    1. "Honest men and wise men should be sought deligently"
    Doctrines and Covenants 98:10

    2. "Civil officers that will administer the law in equity and justice should be sought for"

    3. "The traits of honesty and sincerity must dominate in leaders of a nation."
    Doctrines and Covenants 98:9

    4. "When the wicked rule, the people mourn"

    The prophets admonish to be good citizens.

    One of the prophets defined citizenship with these virtues that contribute to the dignity of man:

    A. Honesty

    B. Keeping a Promise

    Both of these are Xin Virtues

    3. Loyalty

    Other statements of prophets are:

    1. We should obey the laws of the country
    which includes traffic rules

    2. Respect other's rights and property

    3. We should become informed and participate appropriately in local and national affairs

    4. Develope a capacity to communicate to each other in our communities

    5. Work within the law to be an influence for that which is good.

    6. Use our influence so that men and women of upright character are elected to office.

    7. We must stand firm today and always for human rights and the dignity of man

    8. Love Justice

    The world can be made better only to the extent that men desire peace. Not only peace but science, industry and commerce rests on the integrity of men

    "Make proposals for peace"
    Doctrines and Covenants 105:40

    This concludes what I wanted to share with you about the principles that Confucius taught that are the same as those taught in the bible, another testement of Jesus Christ, Doctrines and Covenants and the prophet addresses.

    I hope this shows what we have in common.

    Thank you for permitting me to share this with you.