Complex Or Complicated?

[Wu Wei]

Woohoo!
I've discovered effective bear repellant.

"Complicated" spraying bear repellent on a bear

"Complex" getting mauled by the bear you just sprayed repellent on

 

[Revoltingest]

"Complicated" spraying bear repellent on a bear

"Complex" getting mauled by the bear you just sprayed repellent on

Uh oh....the repellant has a short life.

 

[Wu Wei]

Uh oh....the repellant has a short life.

Most do

 

[Augustus]

I'm addressing the adjective, not the nown

Ooh, 'brain' the adjective...

"I'm painting the kitchen today. My wife wanted a nice bright eggshell, but I've chosen brain instead."

 

[Thief]

and it's TOOLMAKER.. ......TOOLMAKER!!!!!!!!

you squeeling excuse of a .........

no
no excuse
none
it's too complicated

 

[Thief]

My wife wanted a nice bright eggshell,

that's a contradiction in terms

 

[Revoltingest]

Ooh, 'brain' the adjective...

"I'm painting the kitchen today. My wife wanted a nice bright eggshell, but I've chosen brain instead."

"Brain" is a verb too.

 

[Thief]

So what's the difference between a complex complex and a complicated complex?

either way.....you don't know where you live and you are standing in the hall way

lost

 

[WalterTrull]

They seem congruent to me.

 

[Thief]

They seem congruent to me.

so...you're lost.....too

 

[ChristineM]

okay....I got lost there.....

was that?......too complicated?.......or too complex?

Yes

 

[Wu Wei]

I am finding the complex of complications to be overly complicating the complexity

 

[sun rise]

This whole thread is contextual.

 

[Othermaggie]

Many are unsure of the term typewriter. Complicated for sure.

 

[WalterTrull]

Many are unsure of the term typewriter. Complicated for sure.

We are types of writers, I'm sure

 

[WalterTrull]

so...you're lost.....too

Just a lost boy .
Erk..
I vant to drrrink your....

 

[Heyo]

This won't be that much fun, but tis
better here than in that other thread.

As I grok things....
"Complicated" is about a lot of parts doing a lot of things,
but without complicated interactions with other parts.
A typewriter is complicated.

"Complex" is about a lot of parts doing a lot of things
without deterministic relationships with other parts.
Emergent properties arise from complex systems.
A brain is complex.

Argue away, folks.

"Complicated" is about a lot of different pieces interacting in different ways (following multiple rules).
Chess is complicated.

"Complex" is about a lot (and I mean a lot) of pieces interacting according to simple rules.
Emergent properties arise from complex systems.
GO is complex.

 

[Nakosis]

This won't be that much fun, but tis
better here than in that other thread.

As I grok things....
"Complicated" is about a lot of parts doing a lot of things,
but without complicated interactions with other parts.
A typewriter is complicated.

"Complex" is about a lot of parts doing a lot of things
without deterministic relationships with other parts.
Emergent properties arise from complex systems.
A brain is complex.

Argue away, folks.

Ok, sure.

Never worried about it much but that is usually how I'd use the words, not 100% though.

Think I risk miscommunicating by using an improper "complex" on occasion?

 

[Heyo]

I asked @Revoltingest this question. He hasn't yet replied. I'd be interested in your thoughts.

Please explain how you can tell that a brain exhibits emergent properties and that those "emergent properties" are not simply the effects of causes that we don't yet understand.

"Emergent properties are properties that manifest themselves as the result of various system components working together, not as a property of any individual component.

To put that another way, it is a property that a complex system or collection of system parts has, but which individual parts do not possess." - https://sciencetrends.com/what-are-emergent-properties-definition-and-examples/

With that definition you should see the answer as obvious.
Brains exhibit a property (thinking) that a single part (neuron) doesn't have. And we do understand the causes and effects of complex systems that have emergent properties. (Though not all the different properties of brains, yet.)

Meditate over this Zen koan to receive enlightenment to the topic:

What is the sound of a single hand clapping?

 

[joe1776]

"Emergent properties are properties that manifest themselves as the result of various system components working together, not as a property of any individual component.

To put that another way, it is a property that a complex system or collection of system parts has, but which individual parts do not possess." - https://sciencetrends.com/what-are-emergent-properties-definition-and-examples/

With that definition you should see the answer as obvious.
Brains exhibit a property (thinking) that a single part (neuron) doesn't have. And we do understand the causes and effects of complex systems that have emergent properties. (Though not all the different properties of brains, yet.)

Meditate over this Zen koan to receive enlightenment to the topic:

What is the sound of a single hand clapping?

Thanks for replying. I deleted the post you replied to because I hadn't realized that the OP was posted in the Jokes forum.