I do not hate Communism. It is simply an economic system: In the system of the priesthood of the Roman Church all property is owned by the Church and the priests are provided for according to their needs.
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Communist priests and Bishops
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I do not hate Communism. It is simply an economic system: In the system of the priesthood of the Roman Church all property is owned by the Church and the priests are provided for according to their needs.
Father Heathen
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Would be hilarious if true, but it's not.
Communism is not evil. It is simply an economic/political system where all things are owned collectively and the needs of the individuals are provided for according to their needs. This is how the system of the priesthood function in the Roman Church.
The most effective and efficient Communist/Socialist system that ever existed was the Panama Canal Company operating the Canal Zone for almost 100 years.
Father Heathen
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I was just addressing Dope's suggestion that the church's pedophile epidemic is part of some convoluted communist conspiracy.
The communist conspiracy is the McCarthy boogie man of the fifties. Unfortunately many are living in the past fearing the red flags hidden in the closets.
Father Heathen
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What are they going to do if Jesus actually did return with the expectation that they actually follow his teachings and examples, which are fairly similar to socialism?
Cooky
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I think the Church, with it's teachings being protected by God, is capable of extracting only whatever possible good these communist infiltrators may have had, and just disposed of the rest.
Surely everyone has some good in them.
Cooky
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Well, in North Korea, China, Russia, etc., when they were all at the height of their communist eras, religion was banned. And so, that's not evil?
...Or was that just a coincidence that every one of them banned God?
joe1776
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Q. The problems the Magisterium of the Catholic Church have been having are due to...
A: an infiltration of Communists
B. a classic example of dumb humans with too much power
C. Satan
When we apply Occam's Razor...
B, the mundane explanation, is the clear winner, the one most likely to be true.
A: an infiltration of Communists
B. a classic example of dumb humans with too much power
C. Satan
When we apply Occam's Razor...
B, the mundane explanation, is the clear winner, the one most likely to be true.
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Communism is not evil, it is simply an overtly idealistic economic system, and actually is not defined by the ruthless dictatorships that take on the label. There never was a sense of a uniform 'each according to their ability and each according to their needs in the supposed Dictatorships that claimed to be Communist.
False analogy. Communist China was not really Communist. Mao Tze Tong ruled China like a Dynasty pyramid ruthless rule with a book on his bedside table written by Dynasty Emperor. The title was 'How to Rule China.' In reality Mao Tze Tong was the 'Last Emperor' of China.
Russia had an economic system that was more like 'State Mercantilism' with no consideration of the benefit of the individual. The Soviet Union claimed to be 'Socialist,' but in reality neither fits the system of government nor economics.
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Spiderman
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I said it's possible some communist were involved in it. I said my suspicions might be mistaken.
None of the above
The problems of the Roman Church is due to the archaic system of authoritarian hierarchy, where the the divine authority is not questioned.
The problem of Communism(?) is a foolish paranoid boogie man issue, and not real. The reality is most priesthood orders of the Roman Church are managed basically as a Communist/Socialist system.
Boogie man paranoia!
The archaic authoritarian hierarchy of the Roman Church with unquestioned divine authority.
Cooky
Veteran Member
As opposed to the archaic, authoritarianism of every other group at any other given time? Yes. People are people. What's your point?
Cooky
Veteran Member
Actually, the "Roman Church" has been doing elections for thousands of years. Even the pope is elected, and always has been.
"Since the Apostolic Age, the Bishop of Rome, like other bishops, was chosen by the consensus of the clergy and laity of the diocese."
Papal conclave - Wikipedia
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My point is the Roman Church not every other group. The size and power of the Roman Church has no comparison in history. Not every other group has not followed this path in history. The Jews sure did not.
I do not hate the Roman Church. I call a spade a spade and describe as it actually in reality is,
I of course, would not recommend Communism, but I do not hate Communism. It is like hating math, and math could care less.
In the Revoltifarian view, the one giving into temptation is the one solely responsible.
No one has ever observed Satan doing a mind meld to zombify the perpetrator.