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Featured comments on the Qur'an whether good or bad

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by anonymous9887, May 7, 2016.

  1. anonymous9887

    anonymous9887 bible reader

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    Again I don't believe Jesus is god. I don't believe in the trinity.!!!
    Are you listening! !!!!! jk ☺
     
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    That is good (what I have coloured in magenta).
    Regards
     
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    Matthew 5:5 for my claim of the earth " the meek shall inherit the earth.

    1st who is the son of man
    Matthew 24:27,30 when the son of man comes with his angels
    Matthew 16:27 when the son of man comes in the glory of his father with his angels.
    Jesus is the son of man, of course there are many other passages.
    Matthew 9:6 jesus has authority to forgive sins.

    John 17:2 father though have given the son of man authority over all flesh.
    John 17:9 tell the vision to no one until the son of man rises from the dead.
     
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    Jesus is about to die, these are of the last encounter jesus had with them before his death
    Matthew 21:43 the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and be given to a nation produces fruits.
    Matthew 23:37,38 many times I tried to gather you, but now your house is abandoned.

    Romans 9:2-6
    Paul continues on that thought
    Romans 11:25
     
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    Yasin-shalal Yasin-shalal

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    1- It's the pronoun of respect and greatness. You can find this usage of the pronoun in many Arabic, Persian and even Turkish. For example, a king says "We will come there". In fact it's "I will come there". Or whenever a Persian talks to a person whom he/she respects, says "Shoma(plural form of you) come" instead of saying "To(single form of you) come".

    2- First of all, we need to know whether God means "All the creatures living in Heavens and Earth" or He means "Heavens and mountains and all the creatures inside them" or "Heavens and Earth including mountains". In this case we need Tafsir books which study the concept and meaning of verses in details. Tafsir Al-Mizan by Allame-Tabataba'i is one of the best Tafsir books written by a Shia scholar and some Sunni scholars have admitted that it's one of the best Tafsir books. Each verse of Quran has got tens of explanations in it.

    Second of all, based on our Hadith collection, yes all the things have got a degree of conciousness. We have got different kind of souls which cause a degree of conciousness. Each creature has got one or some of these souls inside it. The soul inside a tree is more advance than the soul inside a solid material. The soul of an animal is more advanced than the soul of a tree and the soul of human is more advanced than the soul animals. The soul of a nice man whose heart is full of love is more advanced than the soul of simple people. Each of the souls have got names and I'm not going to explain each of them one by one. However, one of the most advanced souls is called "Mudma'inna" prophets(pbut) had got such souls.

    Quran 89:27-28
    [To the righteous it will be said], "O reassured soul,
    Return to your Lord, well-pleased and pleasing [to Him],
     
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    Jesus was a human being, so he had to die ultimately. but he was not to die on the Cross, and he did not die on the Cross.
    Regards
     
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    Yasin-shalal Yasin-shalal

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    Ressured soul=Nafas al-Mdmainna.
    God has given us authority to make decisions on our own.
    Quran 67:2
    [He] who created death and life to test you [as to] which of you is best in deed - and He is the Exalted in Might, the Forgiving .
    God is all knowing and not limited in time. He knows who will make the test and who will fail. However, He is not going to take the chance as He is Wise and Just. On the other hand, we do need this test to work on our soul and promote it into Mudma'inna. It's the "pass" which make us grow. We do need this "pass", we need to learn how to be kind, how to be honest, how to be hardworking, how to be compassionate, how to be...etc so that we can come back to our God and join Him while He is satisfied with us.
     
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    Ok jesus himself said "the son of man must be handed over to be killed, and he would give his life as a ransom in exchange for many. These are his words.
    Matthew 17:22,23
    Matthew 20:28

    I agree jesus didn't die on a cross he died on an upright stake.
     
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    Yasin-shalal Yasin-shalal

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    Not sure what you are trying to say. Paste it here if you are referring to a text.
     
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    So he did create us to test us?
     
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    You said you were trying to look up information about us, that is our site www.jw.org
     
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    Yasin-shalal Yasin-shalal

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    Well done. Thank God.
    I found your sect a dominant sect of Christianity. Your leadership system is also so similar to ours. We Shia Muslims also have a strong leadership system which is not comparable with any other sects of Islam.
    Well done, a scholar government is a threat to humanity. Brother, tell me if believe in Christ(pbuh)'s arrival? The purpose of Shia leadership system is to make Christ(pbuh) and Mahdi(pbuh) the kings of the world. We have got so many plans for them. What do you do to help Christ(pbuh)? He may appear once again, any plan or any information of his second arrival?
     
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    Well we believe that the next thing before christ coming is the destruction of the harlot. False religion. When the government attacks false religion there will be great tribulation and then christ will come. The signs that Jesus described have kind of always happened but now at a greater magnitude. Jesus predicted all these sect of Christianity. I go door to door preaching and I witness or try to witness to every person I encounter.
     
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    Good that you are studying. I wont comment farther on this particular as I think Firedragon did an admirable job in post #195
     
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    So is the hadith needed?
     
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    For what Paul? I didnt get you.
     
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    1. The Qur'an say it is complete nothing else is needed, 2 he the.hadith
     
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    Not needed.
     
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    So th hadith is not gods word?
    What denomination of muslim are you? And why that denomination if you don't mind my asking?
     
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    What do you mean what denomination Paul? I seriously hate this question. Does it matter when someone provides evidence to a claim?

    If we are discussing textual criticism or scriptural evidence why would it matter if I or you are from some denomination?

    And no, Hadith that you refer to is not Gods word.
     
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