some christians see jesus as a proxy. someone who saves them from everything objective to themselves but not subjective to themselves. unlike those who see the outside of themselves as sinful but not necessarily what is going on inside themselves. sometimes the observer isn't aware of themselves in the observation
Thank you Fool, I think I understand how you mean. You’re thinking of the “dying for Man’s sins” thing, yes?
Firstly, it is a slight misconception to say that God sacrificed Jesus by leaving him to die on the cross. It is more correct to say that God sacrificed Jesus’ innocence (not the antonym to guilt) by incarnating him into human life.
Man is grateful for this huge sacrifice,
not because it shall enable him to sin freely (that is untrue), but because it made the sins of Man comprehensible beyond the worldliness that they belong to.
By this is meant the understanding that the sins of Man are due to him being “stuck” in an individual, human perspective - an effect of experiencing being through a separate and limited, physical body.
Through incarnation, Jesus learnt that Man forgets what Divine Will is, because his own will and self-interests are so loud. He learnt that it is easy for Man to be blind to the whole that he is part of and that it is not obvious why sins are sinful, once one has lost sight of that whole.
Man is grateful to Jesus for having learnt such things and thereby opening a path to Divine forgiveness - for our blindness and forgetfulness,
not for our continued sinning!
Man is grateful too, not just for what Jesus learnt but above all, for what he
taught: that despite it being difficult to keep in mind the whole that one cannot grasp, it is possible to choose to live as though one still knew it is so. Man can live by Divine Will, despite struggling with his own.
Humbly
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