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Classical Concert in Florida Cancelled

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Not all would agree with you. For some, engaging in homosexual behavior is a choice.
For some it is. But more important, for most it is not.

I have found over the years that those with the strongest homophobia appear to be those for whom sexuality is a choice. They tip their hand by assuming that it is a choice for everyone.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
It's My Birthday!
What has paedophilia got to do with this? Nothing.
You did not choose your sexuality, the same way all heterosexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals and asexuals did not. You never sat down at puberty and think "Hmmm now which people shall I choose to feel physically attracted to."
Because if I'm not mistaken, you said something about core beliefs of homosexuals and it is also claimed that pedophiles cannot change their strong attraction to having sexual relationships with children.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
It's My Birthday!
For some it is. But more important, for most it is not.

I have found over the years that those with the strongest homophobia appear to be those for whom sexuality is a choice. They tip their hand by assuming that it is a choice for everyone.
I know you don't believe in and/or respect the Bible yet. I wouldn't go to that college because of my 'core' beliefs but convicted pedophiles are not to be near schools by law sometimes not sure though if in every country.
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
Because if I'm not mistaken, you said something about core beliefs of homosexuals and it is also claimed that pedophiles cannot change their strong attraction to having sexual relationships with children.
I think you're mixing me up with someone else.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
When did you choose a heterosexual lifestyle? Also, why did you choose what music or food to like and not like?

You didn't, just as nobody "chooses" a homosexual "lifestyle".
Do you honestly think you could look at another guy, and on the count of three, choose for attraction and desire to magically happen instantaneously?
Also, consider that many LBGT youth commit suicide due to family and social backlash. Why would they choose that?
Put your little book down just for a moment and try to think critically about it.
I have...

How many heterosexuals commit suicide?

Are you saying we are robots with no freedom of choice? If not, why did you ask about my lifestyle and music and what food I like? *I didn't like fish but love it now; I liked Three Dog Night but don't care for it now. I use to curse and don't now. I use to frequent bars but don't now. Do you want me to continue?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Almost anyone. I'll admit that I draw a line. Everyone does. I wouldn't attend a concert if I knew the performer espoused views against homosexuality, for example.
EXACTLY!

That was exactly the point I was making!!!!! I'm glad someone here actually heard and understood what I said
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I disagree. I think our mind is so powerful we can even learn how to smoke cigarettes and like it.

You disagree with what? The decades of research that have shown sexual orientation to be immutable? There's a reason gay conversion therapy is now recognized by medical consensus as a harmful scam.

What you're saying also doesn't take into account that many LGBT people would change their orientation if they could in order to avoid social and legal persecution, but they simply can't. The vast majority of people wouldn't choose to suffer so immensely if they could avoid it.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Wow, just wow how about when i first called you out for comparing manbla to gays. You seem to be ignoring that abuse.
.as i said, i can provide post numbers if it too difficult for you
I'm not ignoring anything. You drew the analogy between the two - as hateful and distasteful it was and is and is to come. Hopefully you will learn not to do that.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Oh man Kenny,you are just digging your hole even deeper and now you have raised questions about your own sexuality. For the majority one's sexual orientation is not a choice. Most tend to be fairly strongly heterosexual or homosexual. Homosexuality is not a lifestyle and it is not a choice. For most. It may be for you and that may also explain the homophobia that you have demonstrated here. I cannot say for sure. You may not be able to.

Instead of demonstrating hate for others you might want to take a deep look inside. There is nothing wrong with choosing to be straight if you have a choice. But it is wrong to attack others where they have no choice.

Yes, go ahead and change the subject so you don't have to address that you said "NAMBLA" can be equal to homosexuality . Not letting you off the hook and the phobia you are exemplifying
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I know you don't believe in and/or respect the Bible yet. I wouldn't go to that college because of my 'core' beliefs but convicted pedophiles are not to be near schools by law sometimes not sure though if in every country.
What? Why did you even bring up "convicted pedophiles"? You should not conflate pedophilia with pedophilia. Many pedophiles also have adult sex partners. The vast majority of them will be straight. Not homosexual. A pedophile is attracted to children. The sex may be the opposite of the sex that they are attracted to when they are attracted to adults. They may be the same sex that they are attracted to as adults. Their adult sexuality and that of their sexuality involving victims are independent of each other.

The Catholic Church did a study on this and found that homosexuals are not more apt to be pedophiles than straight people. In other words the study that they did found that banning gays from the priesthood would not solve their problem. So of course they banned homosexuals anyway.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes, go ahead and change the subject so you don't have to address that you said "NAMBLA" can be equal to homosexuality . Not letting you off the hook and the phobia you are exemplifying
How did I change the subject? You keep digging your hole deeper and deeper. And no, I pointed out that you were that one that equated NAMBLA and homosexuality. Everyone seems to see this with the exception of you.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I'm not ignoring anything. You drew the analogy between the two - as hateful and distasteful it was and is and is to come. Hopefully you will learn not to do that.

You used manbla. Don't blame me for your bigotry

And you still haven't produced a post in which i was hateful though there are several of yours to be seen
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
But there are people who would hold to sex with young people is perfectly good like NAMBLA. They would say that you are holding a position to cancel an act that can be a healthy experience. The Greeks believed it was healthy and normal if I am not mistaken. (I wouldn't agree of course - just saying that your morals are important to you as their morals are important to them.)

This is your post in full.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
How did I change the subject? You keep digging your hole deeper and deeper. And no, I pointed out that you were that one that equated NAMBLA and homosexuality. Everyone seems to see this with the exception of you.
Can I help if you are sheeple and don't want to admit you are wrong (you never do no matter how much people show you are)
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
You used manbla. Don't blame me for your bigotry

And you still haven't produced a post in which i was hateful though there are several of yours to be seen
Don't blame me for your hypocrisy. You are the one who made the two analogous.
 
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