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Christmas & Santa are agents of evil sent by Satan the Devil

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by t3gah, Dec 19, 2004.

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  1. Yes. It is ok to celebrate Christmas or Christ Mass

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  2. No. It is NOT ok to celebrate Christmas or Christ Mass

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  3. I'm not sure

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  4. Who cares?!

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  1. Feathers in Hair

    Feathers in Hair World's Tallest Hobbit

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    *dances the happy pagan dance with Circle One*

    Seriously, though, t3gah, it sounds as if the issues from your childhood are affecting your perception of what most others percieve as an innocent holiday. Can you seek counselling from your pastor/priest/ whomever? I only suggest this because it seems as if, otherwise, one would be so frustrated that it would begin to effect their mood. You are, of course, entitled to your beliefs. Thankfully, we all are.
     
  2. Circle_One

    Circle_One Well-Known Member

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    One cannot be afraid of something one does not believe in T3gah, so my mention of "hell" has nothing to do with fear. When I die, yes my body with go into the grave (should I choose to be buried rather than cremated), but my soul will return to the earth from whence it came to give life back to the nature that in turn gave me life. Such a pretty little circle.

    I love the happy Pagan dance! *Pulls out broomstick* :D
     
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  3. SoulTYPE

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    t3gah, you have made a good impact with this. And you do about it such a comic manner.:) :) It's people like you that make a good discussion.

    I do not believe that Hell is a fiery inferno either. It more describes a mental state of mind. Or a condition. If a man were trapped on an island with no food or water, that could be described as "Hell" to him. I will not pursue my part any further on hell as there is already a thread on Hell (somewhere).

    t3gah:)
     
  4. t3gah

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    I see, so what you are saying is to replace the word "lie" with "fantasy" and everything will be "OK". Yup, I get it now. That's how all those other families have kept the tradition of Christmas going. They made their children believe it's a fantasy. I'm glad I know it was a lie because I'm a better person because of it. Just think of those poor children and the future children going along with the fantasy when the rest of the world knows it as either a lie or the true. Mass confusion at schools everywhere!

    What "joy" is there in perpetuating the lie of Christmas? :sarcastic
     
  5. Circle_One

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    All those poor children? Hundreds of thousands of children before you have lived and grown up to find out Santa Claus isn't real and they do not grow to become deranged people with extreme psychological problems. You are the first I've ever heard saying anything like this about Christmas, so what does that tell you?

    Where is the harm in allowing children this joy? I highly doubt your God is looking down upon the world thinking about how billions of his followers will now not be granted access into heaven simply because they follow the tradition of Christmas.
     
  6. Mister Emu

    Mister Emu Emu Extraordinaire
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    Sorry, this is OT, Hell is not the fiery inferno that everyone associates it with, that is the lake of fire.

    The 144k are going to be on earth around the end.

    Rev. 9:4
    Who are those of mankind who do have the seal on their foreheads?

    Rev. 7:3-4
    The 144K.

    On topic from now on.

    I personally agree with T3gah to a degree, I see no reason to lie to my children, if I have children, if they have joy on Christmas it should be that Jesus was born(not necessarily on that day), not about some guy in a red suit giving them presents.
     
  7. Circle_One

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    Yes, but do you feel those that DO celebrate Christmas, with all its odd traditions of fat men in red suits and flying reindeer will "Join the father of the lie at Armageddon when he is destroyed" and "Lose out on being one of God's earthly children for all eternity"?
     
  8. SoulTYPE

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    Damn hard to agree with everyone here. They all have valid points. But, with the thread title, I do not see how people celberating in the "Santa" tradition is considered "serving the agents of Satan".

    Serving the act of marketing yes.
     
  9. Mister Emu

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    No. I do not.
     
  10. Circle_One

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    And I completely didn't expect you to. I think it's perfectly fine for anyone to feel however they want about Christmas, or anything for that matter. I may disagree, but who cares, we all have our own opinions, right? But the fact that T3gah is saying that those who follow Christmas traditions are followers of Satan...was just a bit much for me.

    I mean, I've been told I'd go to hell for many reasons...but for celebrating Christmas? That's a first, lol :biglaugh:
     
  11. SoulTYPE

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    That is based if it is coming from a Christian's view, C1. It is not what you celberate, but how you celberate it, that makes the people tell you to go hell.

    C E L E B E R A T E

    is that correct dammit
     
  12. Circle_One

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    No darling, sorry but it's not. There's no E between the B and the R. :D

    Aside from that, I know they are condemning me for what I practice (though not all do..actually as of late very few have), but I was just saying that I have been condemned for practicing Paganism, but never have I been condemned for such a mundane thing as celebrating a certain holiday. (Though I do not infact celebrate "Christmas", but rather Yule).
     
  13. Mister Emu

    Mister Emu Emu Extraordinaire
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    Circle, I have a question,

    Which Pagan religion do you follow, if there is a certain one?
     
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    It's a little hard to put into words Mister Emu, but I'll try to make sense of it.

    I would be considered Isisian because the main tradition I follow is The Cult of Isis. (An Ancient Egyptian Tradition, that is no longer widespread). However, most of my teens years was spent studying and understand Dianic Wicca with my mother, (she converted when I was about 12), so some of my beliefs stem from that. Still other beliefs come from older Pagan religions such as Druidism and some Celtic traditions. However, turning back to The Cult of Isis, my Mother Goddess is Isis and my God, her consort Osiris.
     
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    Thanks, I was just wondering because pagan is a very broad term.
     
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    Not a problem. Yeah, I know, Pagan is an umbrella term, I just used that because not many people are familiar with either the Isisian tradition or the Cult of Isis itself.
     
  17. Quoth The Raven

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    Christmas has been around for longer than you or I, or our parents, or our grandparents. Where has the mass confusion been up until now? How many people are in therapy because they found out Santa doesn't really come down a chimney the house doesn't even have and leave presents under the tree? You're the only person I've ever come across in my life that takes this veiwpoint.
    Honestly, even if you still choose not to have some sort of celebration in December, I strongly suggest you seek some form of resolution to this problem you have with what you perceive as your parents lies. Get that out of your system...you need to.
     
  18. Quoth The Raven

    Quoth The Raven Half Arsed Muse

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    Never assumed you were anything other than an adult...doesn't mean you don't still have unaddressed childhood issues.
    I like the Jehovas Witnesses.
    The local congregation went up a mountain in the not too distant past to get away from the flood that was coming to cleanse the world of non-believers...they were quite sheepish when they returned to their jobs on the Monday to find their workmates making swimming motions with their arms as they walked around.:biglaugh:
     
  19. SoulTYPE

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    t3g4H(sounds like Sega lol)

    Is it being implied that Santa is merely a marketing scheme brought on to promote the act of buying goods, and more importantly, is it also impied that celebrating Christmas in the traditional Santa method is to try and keep people believing in what Christmas was all about in the first place?
     
  20. t3gah

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    I have four words for you on this matter:


    Get your eyes examined;)
     
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