Christians: Will the Christian Church go through the Tribulation?

[sooda]

What made the Roman emperor the anti-christ? When did he make a covenant with the Jews and allowed them to rebuild the temple? (Dan. 9:27) When did the Jews receive him as the messiah? When did he set up the abomination of desolation?

What makes you think that Revelation is not a book of prophecy. (Rev. 1:3)

Scripture says the Tribulation will be for 7 years. (Dan. 9:27) When did it start as it is then the anti-christ is revealed.

Why do you not answer my question concerning the Rapture? You described the Rapture in post #(13). So you must believe the Rapture....correct?

Good-Ole-Rebel

Daniel is history not prophesy.. It was written by Jewish scholars in 167 BC around the Maccabean Revolt.

Antiochus defiled the Temple.. That was the first abomination of desolation. The Jews did rebuild the Temple (see Cyrus of Persia), but in Revelation there is no temple.

The Rapture is a reassurance to the Thessalonians that those who died before the return of Christ will also be 'taken up'..

Hal Lindsey is a charlatan.. I wouldn't let him rewrite scripture.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Daniel is history not prophesy.. It was written by Jewish scholars in 167 BC around the Maccabean Revolt.

Antiochus defiled the Temple.. That was the first abomination of desolation. The Jews did rebuild the Temple (see Cyrus of Persia), but in Revelation there is no temple.

The Rapture is a reassurance to the Thessalonians that those who died before the return of Christ will also be 'taken up'..

Hal Lindsey is a charlatan.. I wouldn't let him rewrite scripture.

Jesus disagrees with you. (Matt. 24:15) "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)" Why would Jesus lie about Daniel being a prophet?

Your dating is wrong as is your claim that Daniel didn't write the book that bears his name. Ezekiel wrote in the 6th century B.C. during the captivity of Judah by Babylon. And hear what he says. (Ezekiel 14:14) "Though these three men, Noah, Daniel and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls...." (Ezekiel 14:20) "Though Noah, Daniel,and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God...." (Ezekiel 28:3) "Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:"

You failed to answer my first question. What made the Roman emperor the anti-christ? When did the Jews receive the Roman emperor as the Messiah? (John 5:43) (2 Thess. 2:11) Your story doesn't fit.

You failed to answer another question. When did the Roman emperor make a covenant with the Jews and allowed them to rebuild the temple. Remember it was you that said the Roman emperor was the anti-christ. Also, another question you didn't answer, when did the Roman emperor set up the abomination of desolation in the temple? (Dan. 12:11) (Matt. 24:15) (2 Thess. 2:4)

Another question you didn't answer....did you answer any?....What makes you think the book of (Revelation) is not prophecy? (Rev. 1:3)

Another question you didn't answer, when did the Tribulation start, as it is then that anti-christ is revealed. Scripture says the Tribulation is 7 years. Not 42 months. So, when does it begin?

Another question you didn't answer, in post #(13) you described the Rapture. So you must believe the Rapture. Correct?

Why do you bring up Hal Lindsay?

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Brickjectivity]

Daniel is history not prophesy.. It was written by Jewish scholars in 167 BC around the Maccabean Revolt.

Antiochus defiled the Temple.. That was the first abomination of desolation. The Jews did rebuild the Temple (see Cyrus of Persia), but in Revelation there is no temple.

The Rapture is a reassurance to the Thessalonians that those who died before the return of Christ will also be 'taken up'..

Hal Lindsey is a charlatan.. I wouldn't let him rewrite scripture.

Its sorta History but not really. Its called an Apocalypse. I think it represents things which happen repeatedly or continuously with timeless principles in it. Recall that it completely changes the names of anyone in the stories who could be like anyone in History. For example the actual's king's names are changed from what is in on the steles (pronounced like 'Steelies') That suggests that it is an apocalypse and not direct History, just like when we writing something and change the names. This however is not specifically meant to be mere Historical Fiction but something which deals with repeating History.

Also it is pointless to call it a prediction only about the End of the World. Its meant to be repeatedly useful. Revelation, also, is like this. Its constantly talking about seven stars, seven churches, seven lampstands, seven bowls, seven this and that. These are references to the number seven, to the repetition and patience required of the saints. Revelation repeatedly says "This requires patience on behalf of the saints" not "Impatience," and not "Ok finally, now we don't have to fix the world anymore. Jesus is going to do it for us."

 

[sooda]

Jesus disagrees with you. (Matt. 24:15) "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)" Why would Jesus lie about Daniel being a prophet?

Your dating is wrong as is your claim that Daniel didn't write the book that bears his name. Ezekiel wrote in the 6th century B.C. during the captivity of Judah by Babylon. And hear what he says. (Ezekiel 14:14) "Though these three men, Noah, Daniel and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls...." (Ezekiel 14:20) "Though Noah, Daniel,and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God...." (Ezekiel 28:3) "Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:"

You failed to answer my first question. What made the Roman emperor the anti-christ? When did the Jews receive the Roman emperor as the Messiah? (John 5:43) (2 Thess. 2:11) Your story doesn't fit.

You failed to answer another question. When did the Roman emperor make a covenant with the Jews and allowed them to rebuild the temple. Remember it was you that said the Roman emperor was the anti-christ. Also, another question you didn't answer, when did the Roman emperor set up the abomination of desolation in the temple? (Dan. 12:11) (Matt. 24:15) (2 Thess. 2:4)

Another question you didn't answer....did you answer any?....What makes you think the book of (Revelation) is not prophecy? (Rev. 1:3)

Another question you didn't answer, when did the Tribulation start, as it is then that anti-christ is revealed. Scripture says the Tribulation is 7 years. Not 42 months. So, when does it begin?

Another question you didn't answer, in post #(13) you described the Rapture. So you must believe the Rapture. Correct?

Why do you bring up Hal Lindsay?

Good-Ole-Rebel

"Jesus disagrees with you. (Matt. 24:15) "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)" Why would Jesus lie about Daniel being a prophet?"

Yes, Jesus is referencing the abomination of desolation under Antiochus IV. Daniel is NOT recognized as a by the Jews.. There was NO Daniel and he was NEVER in Babylon at all. Daniel was written by a group of Jews in 167 BC during the persecutions by Antiochus and during the Maccabean Revolt to encourage the Jews.


Through the books of Revelation and Daniel God gives us a thorough description of the antichrist of Bible prophecy. It is important to identify the antichrist because from it will come the sign, or "mark", of it's authority. Against this mark, "the mark of the beast", or the mark of the authority of the antichrist, comes one of the Bible's strongest prohibitions. "And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:" Revelation 14:9-10

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

"Jesus disagrees with you. (Matt. 24:15) "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)" Why would Jesus lie about Daniel being a prophet?"

Yes, Jesus is referencing the abomination of desolation under Antiochus IV. Daniel is NOT recognized as a by the Jews.. There was NO Daniel and he was NEVER in Babylon at all. Daniel was written by a group of Jews in 167 BC during the persecutions by Antiochus and during the Maccabean Revolt to encourage the Jews.


Through the books of Revelation and Daniel God gives us a thorough description of the antichrist of Bible prophecy. It is important to identify the antichrist because from it will come the sign, or "mark", of it's authority. Against this mark, "the mark of the beast", or the mark of the authority of the antichrist, comes one of the Bible's strongest prohibitions. "And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:" Revelation 14:9-10

You answer nothing and contradict yourself.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[sooda]

You answer nothing and contradict yourself.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Jesus knew the story of what Antiochus had done and how he defiled the temple.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Jesus knew the story of what Antiochus had done and how he defiled the temple.

As I said, you answered nothing.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[sooda]

You answer nothing and contradict yourself.

Good-Ole-Rebel

The abomination of desolation was a warning of when one had to flee to the mountains to avoid persecution with the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D. (Matthew 24:16-22) but it was also to be a warning of when to flee to the mountains in the end of time to avoid persecution during the tribulation years before the second coming of Christ.

The tribulation was local if you can avoid it by fleeing to the mountains.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

The abomination of desolation was a warning of when one had to flee to the mountains to avoid persecution with the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D. (Matthew 24:16-22) but it was also to be a warning of when to flee to the mountains in the end of time to avoid persecution during the tribulation years before the second coming of Christ.

The tribulation was local if you can avoid it by fleeing to the mountains.

Again, you answered nothing I presented in post #(22).

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[sooda]

Again, you answered nothing I presented in post #(22).

Good-Ole-Rebel

The antichrist instituted the mark of the beast... You know, the head of Caesar on Roman coin. The "world" came against Israel. Their world was the Roman Empire and the Roman empire troops fought under the command of Vespasian and Titus in destroying the Temple and Jerusalem.

The first couple of verses in Revelation identify who the letter is written to and when it will take place.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

The antichrist instituted the mark of the beast... You know, the head of Caesar on Roman coin. The "world" came against Israel. Their world was the Roman Empire and the Roman empire troops fought under the command of Vespasian and Titus in destroying the Temple and Jerusalem.

The first couple of verses in Revelation identify who the letter is written to and when it will take place.

And Rome is a city in Italy. And Sicily is just off the coast of Italy. Very enlightening information, yet answers nothing in post #(22).

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

The Tribulation period serves two purposes. 1.) To turn Israel back to her God as a nation through the remaining judgements upon her left in the last 7 years, or last week, of the 70 weeks of Daniel. (Daniel 9) 2.) To bring judgements against the rest of the unbelieving world, whose unbelief will be manifested in their treatment of the Jews and Israel.

Moses warned Israel of this time that would come in the future. Prior to entering the promised land he told them in the book of (Deuteronomy).

(Deut. 4:23) "Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the LORD your God, which he made with you...."

(Deut. 4:26) "I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over the Jordon to possess it...."

(Deut. 4:27) "And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations....."

(Deut 4:29) "But if from there thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul."

(Deut. 4:30) "When thou art in tribulation and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;"

Later in the 8th century B.C. the Northern 10 tribes of Israel were taken out of the land and scattered across the nations by the Assyrians. Then in 6th century B.C. the two Southern tribes were carried away by Babylon out of the land to Babylon. Thus Moses prophetic warning was true.

Now Jeremiah the prophet, during the days of the Babylonian captivity, gives encouragement to the Jews that God will one day restore them. (Jer. 30:3) "For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it."

But, that day involves judgement first. That judgement is called the 'Day of the LORD'. The Tribulation is part of that Day. It is also called the time of 'Jacobs trouble'. Why? Because Israel must complete the last 7 of the 490 years fortold by Daniel. (Jer. 30:7) "Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it."

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[sooda]

The Tribulation period serves two purposes. 1.) To turn Israel back to her God as a nation through the remaining judgements upon her left in the last 7 years, or last week, of the 70 weeks of Daniel. (Daniel 9) 2.) To bring judgements against the rest of the unbelieving world, whose unbelief will be manifested in their treatment of the Jews and Israel.

Moses warned Israel of this time that would come in the future. Prior to entering the promised land he told them in the book of (Deuteronomy).

(Deut. 4:23) "Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the LORD your God, which he made with you...."

(Deut. 4:26) "I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over the Jordon to possess it...."

(Deut. 4:27) "And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations....."

(Deut 4:29) "But if from there thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul."

(Deut. 4:30) "When thou art in tribulation and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;"

Later in the 8th century B.C. the Northern 10 tribes of Israel were taken out of the land and scattered across the nations by the Assyrians. Then in 6th century B.C. the two Southern tribes were carried away by Babylon out of the land to Babylon. Thus Moses prophetic warning was true.

Now Jeremiah the prophet, during the days of the Babylonian captivity, gives encouragement to the Jews that God will one day restore them. (Jer. 30:3) "For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it."

But, that day involves judgement first. That judgement is called the 'Day of the LORD'. The Tribulation is part of that Day. It is also called the time of 'Jacobs trouble'. Why? Because Israel must complete the last 7 of the 490 years fortold by Daniel. (Jer. 30:7) "Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it."

Good-Ole-Rebel

Daniel was written in 167 BC during the reign and persecutions of Antiochus IV Epiphanes... during the Maccabean revolt.

The Christians of the first century AD did escape the tribulation.. Not because they were raptured, but because they fled to Pella.

The Jews did return from Babylon.. They were "restored" because of Cyrus the Great who was considered a messiah.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Daniel was written in 167 BC during the reign and persecutions of Antiochus IV Epiphanes... during the Maccabean revolt.

The Christians of the first century AD did escape the tribulation.. Not because they were raptured, but because they fled to Pella.

The Jews did return from Babylon.. They were "restored" because of Cyrus the Great who was considered a messiah.

Your falling behind. Your inability to explain yourself by not answering post #(22) makes your statements empty. Answer post #(22).

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

As we have seen the Tribulation period is a specific time period. (Daniel) reveals that it is the last 7 years of the 70 years required by God to complete Israel's judgement. (Dan. 9)

In the book of (Revelation) we are told plainly that the Church will not go through this time period called the Tribulation. (Rev. 3:10) "...I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth." And of course, why should it? It is not the time of the Church's trouble. It is the time of Jacob's trouble. (Jer. 30:7)

And lest any think that the Tribulation has already happened, such as 70 A.D., you must remember it is to last 7 years. And at the end of those years, Jesus Christ returns. Look at what Christ said concerning it.

(Matt. 24:15) "When ye, therefore, shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whosoever readeth, let him understand),

(Matt. 24:21) "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be."

(Matt. 25:29-30) "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give its light, and the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven; and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

Jesus Christ has yet to return. Thus the Tribulation has not yet come.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[sooda]

As we have seen the Tribulation period is a specific time period. (Daniel) reveals that it is the last 7 years of the 70 years required by God to complete Israel's judgement. (Dan. 9)

In the book of (Revelation) we are told plainly that the Church will not go through this time period called the Tribulation. (Rev. 3:10) "...I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth." And of course, why should it? It is not the time of the Church's trouble. It is the time of Jacob's trouble. (Jer. 30:7)

And lest any think that the Tribulation has already happened, such as 70 A.D., you must remember it is to last 7 years. And at the end of those years, Jesus Christ returns. Look at what Christ said concerning it.

(Matt. 24:15) "When ye, therefore, shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whosoever readeth, let him understand),

(Matt. 24:21) "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be."

(Matt. 25:29-30) "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give its light, and the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven; and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

Jesus Christ has yet to return. Thus the Tribulation has not yet come.

Good-Ole-Rebel

The abomination of desolation (Matthew 24:15) is another one of those prophetic topics that meets with a lot of misunderstanding and a lot of speculation.

Some Christians, including theologians have said that it was Antiochus Epiphanes who sacrificed a pig in the temple nearly 200 years before Christ was even born.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

The Tribulation period is a time of transition. It is the time when God's rule upon the earth is being taken away from the Gentile nations and given back to the nation Israel. This was what the disciples of Christ hoped Jesus was about to do after the resurrection. (Acts 1:6) "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And Jesus told them it wasn't for them to know. (Acts 1:7) "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. The point being, it would be given back to Israel but they were not to know when.

When did Israel cease to be the nation God used to exercise His rule on earth? It was taken away in 605 B.C. when Babylon took over Jerusalem under Nebuchadnezzar. The prophet (Ezekiel) was witness to the glory of the LORD departing Israel in three stages.

1.) (Ezekiel 10:4) "Then the glory of the LORD went up from the cherub, and stood over the threshold of the hous; and the house was filled with the cloud, and the court was full of the brightness of the LORD's glory.

2.) (Ezekiel 10:18) "Then the glory of the LORD departed from off the threshold of the house, and stood over the cherubims.

3.) ( Ezekiel 11:23) "And the glory of the LORD went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mountain which is on the east side of the city.

The glory of God left from the Mount of Olives. And Jesus when He left, He ascended from the Mount of Olives. (Acts 1:9-12) And when He returns, it will be to the Mount of Olives. (Acts 1:11) (Zech. 14:4) "And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east...."

It will be at the Second Coming of Christ that Israel will once again be the nation thru whom God will rule over the earth. So, the time from the Babylonian captivity to the Second Coming of Christ is known as the 'Times of the Gentiles'. Throughout that time Israel will be under Gentile dominion. Jesus said, "And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations; and Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. (Luke 21:24)

Daniel the prophet in his book addresses specifically this 'times of the Gentiles' and Israel's history with them. And as we saw in (Matt. 25:29-30), Jesus Second Coming ends the Tribulation period. And, ends the 'times of the Gentiles.

All of this will be important to show that the Church will not go through that Tribulation.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

The Tribulation period starts what is that final 'Day of the Lord'. The Tribulation ends 7 years later at the Second Coming of Christ. And if those 7 years were not cut short to some degree, no one would survive. (Matt. 24:22) This shows how terrible a time it will be.

This period of Tribulation is called the 'time of Jacobs trouble'. (Jer. 30:7) The Lord promised the Church that she would not partake of that time period. (Rev. 3:10) So, whenever the Tribulation starts, the Church is gone.

In Paul's letters to the Thessalonians he addresses this topic. And just like we saw that Christ told the disciples in (Acts 1:7) they were not to know the exact time, so Paul said the same to the Thessalonians. (1 Thess. 5:1) "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night."

But later some false prophets had been telling the Thessalonian believers, who were undergoing persecution at that time, that they were in the Tribulation, the Day of the Lord, now.

(2 Thess. 1:7-8) "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels. In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ."

(2 Thess. 2:3) "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God shewing himself that he is God."

There can be no 'falling away' and the anti-christ revealed, until the Holy Spirit cease His restraining work against this evil. This work He does now involves the Church, in whom the Spirit of God is, but is certainly not limited to the Church. But because the Church is part of this hindrance, then she must be taken out of the way.

(2 Thess. 2:6-8) "And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work; only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming."

The event of the Church being taken out of the way, is called the Rapture.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[sooda]

The Tribulation period is a time of transition. It is the time when God's rule upon the earth is being taken away from the Gentile nations and given back to the nation Israel. This was what the disciples of Christ hoped Jesus was about to do after the resurrection. (Acts 1:6) "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And Jesus told them it wasn't for them to know. (Acts 1:7) "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. The point being, it would be given back to Israel but they were not to know when.

When did Israel cease to be the nation God used to exercise His rule on earth? It was taken away in 605 B.C. when Babylon took over Jerusalem under Nebuchadnezzar. The prophet (Ezekiel) was witness to the glory of the LORD departing Israel in three stages.

1.) (Ezekiel 10:4) "Then the glory of the LORD went up from the cherub, and stood over the threshold of the hous; and the house was filled with the cloud, and the court was full of the brightness of the LORD's glory.

2.) (Ezekiel 10:18) "Then the glory of the LORD departed from off the threshold of the house, and stood over the cherubims.

3.) ( Ezekiel 11:23) "And the glory of the LORD went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mountain which is on the east side of the city.

The glory of God left from the Mount of Olives. And Jesus when He left, He ascended from the Mount of Olives. (Acts 1:9-12) And when He returns, it will be to the Mount of Olives. (Acts 1:11) (Zech. 14:4) "And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east...."

It will be at the Second Coming of Christ that Israel will once again be the nation thru whom God will rule over the earth. So, the time from the Babylonian captivity to the Second Coming of Christ is known as the 'Times of the Gentiles'. Throughout that time Israel will be under Gentile dominion. Jesus said, "And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations; and Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. (Luke 21:24)

Daniel the prophet in his book addresses specifically this 'times of the Gentiles' and Israel's history with them. And as we saw in (Matt. 25:29-30), Jesus Second Coming ends the Tribulation period. And, ends the 'times of the Gentiles.

All of this will be important to show that the Church will not go through that Tribulation.

Good-Ole-Rebel

The abomination of desolation, abomination
that makes desolate, or desolating sacrilege is a term found in the Book of Daniel and the Gospels of Matthew and Mark, which means literally "an abomination that desolates" or "an abomination that depopulates".

Christians avoided the tribulation because they fled to Pella. The Jews were not made a whole nation .. Both the temple and Jerusalem were destroyed,

The period of the Gentiles is when Titus' army was trampling Jerusalem.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Once the Rapture occurs, there is no hindrance to the Mystery of Iniquity that has proceeded down through the ages. The Church is no longer there to restrain and the Holy Spirit no longer attempts to restrain.

Of this 'Rapture' many say it is not mentioned in the Bible. But it is. (1 Thess. 4:17) "Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air...." The words 'caught up' are from he Greek 'arpadzo'. This was translated in Latin in the Vulgate as 'rapturo'. Hence our word 'rapture'. Raptured or caught up.

So Paul explains the Rapture in (1 Thess. 4:13-18) There was apparently some concern among the Thessalonian believers about the Christians who had already died, that they would not experience the glorious meeting that would occur when Christ returns for the Church. Paul wants to assure them that that is not so.

The 'dead in Christ' shall partake of that Rapture, just as we, who are in Christ, and alive, will. Just because the believer dies, does not mean he will not experience the Rapture.

(1 Thess. 4:13-14) "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them who are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them who sleepin Jesus will God bring with Him."

Those Christians who have died aree already with the Lord in a spiritual body. Their spirit. At the Rapture these will first have their bodies resurrected and united with them.

(1 Thess. 4:15-16) "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them who are asleep...and the dead in Christ shall rise first."

Then the living Christians join the resurrected Christians in being caught up together to Christ.

(1 Thess. 4:17) "Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air...."

Paul will later explain this further in (1 Cor. 15:52-53) "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

The world wishes the Church was gone. It has tried to destroy it, dilute it, and hinder it anyway it can. One day it will be gone. But what then? Evil is turned loose to have it's day.

Good-Ole-Rebel