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Featured Christians: Why are “few” on the road to life?

Discussion in 'Same Faith Debates' started by Deeje, Mar 9, 2021.

  1. Yahcubs777

    Yahcubs777 Active Member

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    Revelation 21, is when the earth is no longer a terrestrial planet. And in a celestial planet there is no sea, and no night time, no sun light, none of it. The terrestrial has packed up. And its written in the language of Prophets, not in symbols. It is the oceans. Water in this earth is not in its perfect state. Water in the Celestial is crystal waters. There is also no animals or fish in a celestial planet. You are far from understanding what the kingdom is.
     
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    isaiah 35 is speaking of this earth, not a celestial heavens world. Rev 22, is not this earth, it is a celestial planet. The 1000 years is in a celestial planet. And 1000 years is 1 day in heavens system of counting. When the end of this terrestrial comes, all of it shall pack up and the celestial will be installed. And only Celestial immortal beings will reign 1000 years with Father Adam, Mother Eve, and all the children of the kingdom that were resurrected when Jesus His Pre-Eminence resurrected HIMSELF, and resurrected them, and all of the children of the kingdom that were resurrected at the first resurrection, and all the children of life, that lived forever and did not die at all.
     
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    Isaiah 45:18 says God made earth for people to live on.

    For this is what the Lord says—
    he who created the heavens,
    he is God;
    he who fashioned and made the earth,
    he founded it;
    he did not create it to be empty,
    but formed it to be inhabited
     
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  4. filthyrottendirty

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    Where in the Bible is any of this mentioned? Source?
     
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    "isaiah 35 is speaking of this earth"

    Then will the eyes of the blind be opened
    and the ears of the deaf unstopped.
    6 Then will the lame leap like a deer,
    and the mute tongue shout for joy.
    Water will gush forth in the wilderness
    and streams in the desert.

    When in the history of the planet has this ever happened?
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    In regards to the OP, it seems that some are so much into political correctness about a name and numerous other minutia rather than on focusing in on Jesus' Two Commandments, such as what's covered in the Sermon On the Mount and Jesus' Parable of the Sheep & Goats. Following and obeying Jesus should be a lifestyle, thus not just word-games or other trivia.
     
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    halbhh The wonder and awe of "all things".

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    Yes, generally none of us know what day might be our own last day, and we need to have our lamp full of His oil. I expect it's what we find in chapters 13-15 of John. And notice, that with oil, the lamp can make light. Without oil it cannot.
     
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    I thought that you might have been thinking of this Scripture when you stated the oceans will be gone.

    “Sea” is not literal, here...just as “new earth” & ‘new heaven’ is not literal. (Grief! If that were the case, i.e., the current literal one’s being gone, where’s everyone gonna go??)

    Isaiah 57:20 likens the wicked to the boisterous sea. When Psalms 37:10-11 is fulfilled, the wicked will be no more...the sea will be no more. And “earth” can mean people, like in Genesis 11:1. So, a “new earth” refers to a new society of people, the meek, inheriting the earth. — Matthew 5:5

    (Why destroy the planet? It’s beautiful! And it has done nothing wrong. But some people have...and still do.)

    Yeah, JW’s read the Bible a lot!
     
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    I comes down to what or Whom one is trusting. Ephesians 2:8-10, ". . . that not of yourselves: . . ." John 1:12-13, ". . . not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, . . ." Romans 8:9, 1 John 5:12, 2 Corinthians 13:5.
     
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    maybe you missed Isaiah 11
    6 And the wolf will actually reside for a while with the male lamb, and with the kid the leopard itself will lie down, and the calf and the maned young lion and the well-fed animal all together; and a mere little boy will be leader over them. 7 And the cow and the bear themselves will feed; together their young ones will lie down. And even the lion will eat straw just like the bull. 8 And the sucking child will certainly play upon the hole of the cobra; and upon the light aperture of a poisonous snake will a weaned child actually put his own hand. 9 They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea.
     
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    No the sea is literal. Do you think that a heavens world has liquid water? I suppose you also think that Night time is also not literal. Heaven has no liquid waters. Heaven has no night time.

    Rev 22

    And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

    2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

    3And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

    4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

    5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

    To answer your question,the terrestrial earth will transfigure into a celestial earth.
     
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    Speaking of Shiloh, which is actually pointing to the Ark of Noah.
     
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    When Jesus His Pre-Eminence walked the earth. And when Noah coupled the Ark.
     
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    Where is that in the Bible?
     
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    How do you think Animals remained in the Ark for a year? Do you think they were still animalistic? The Lion ate straw, was pointing to the Ark of Noah. And Water covered the entire earth.

    Jesus HIs Pre-Eminence said to say to John the Baptist:

    2Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, 3And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.
     
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    I find Jesus couldn't have subjects or citizens from 'sea to sea' if the literal seas were No more - see Psalms 72:8
     
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    You seem to be very confused about who this is talking about. This is talking about the Son of Man, Elijah. If the Moon endures it means its still a terrestrial earth. When the sun, moon and stars pack up, thats when the earth will be transfigured.
     
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    ahh , no
     
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    Yes.

    For as it was in the days of Noah, so too shall the coming of the son of man be.
     
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    Paradise that God will soon establish, animals and humans will be at peace. The lamb will be at no risk to be with a wolf or a calf with a leopard. As if to show the contrast with the present, the language even allows for the idea that the wolf would be a resident protected by the lamb.—Isaiah 35:9; 65:25.
    9 No lion will prove to be there, and the rapacious sort of wild beasts will not come up on it. None will be found there; and the repurchased ones must walk [there]
    25 “The wolf and the lamb themselves will feed as one, and the lion will eat straw just like the bull; and as for the serpent, his food will be dust. They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain,” Jehovah has said.
     
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