What do you guys think about this. "The so-called lost books of the Bible are those documents that are mentioned in the Bible in such a way that it is evident they are considered authentic and valuable, but that are not found in the Bible today. Sometimes called missing scripture, they consist of at least the following: book of the Wars of the Lord (Num. 21: 14); book of Jasher (Josh. 10: 13; 2 Sam. 1: 18); book of the acts of Solomon (1 Kgs. 11: 41); book of Samuel the seer (1 Chr. 29: 29); book of Gad the seer (1 Chr. 29: 29); book of Nathan the prophet (1 Chr. 29: 29; 2 Chr. 9: 29); prophecy of Ahijah (2 Chr. 9: 29); visions of Iddo the seer (2 Chr. 9: 29; 2 Chr. 12: 15; 2 Chr. 13: 22); book of Shemaiah (2 Chr. 12: 15); book of Jehu (2 Chr. 20: 34); sayings of the seers (2 Chr. 33: 19); an epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, earlier than our present 1 Corinthians (1 Cor. 5: 9); possibly an earlier epistle to the Ephesians (Eph. 3: 3); an epistle to the Church at Laodicea (Col. 4: 16); and some prophecies of Enoch, known to Jude (Jude 1: 14). To these rather clear references to inspired writings other than our current Bible may be added another list that has allusions to writings that may or may not be contained within our present text, but may perhaps be known by a different title; for example, the book of the covenant (Ex. 24: 7), which may or may not be included in the current book of Exodus; the manner of the kingdom, written by Samuel (1 Sam. 10: 25); the rest of the acts of Uzziah written by Isaiah (2 Chr. 26: 22)"(http://scriptures.lds.org/bdl/lstbks). Some people try to disprove the Book of Mormon by saying that the Bible is the only scripture there ever was or ever will be, yet there are all of these references to other scripture that's not in the Bible. Don't get me wrong, because I love the Bible, but other revelation and scripture is awesome too. Can't wait for your thoughts.
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Christians: Lost Books
- Thread starter mormonman
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PHOTOTAKER
Well-Known Member
i thank the wars of the lord is in the dead sea scrolls or it talks about it...
PHOTOTAKER
Well-Known Member
there is much that are missing that why Jesus talked about the resteration of the gosple before he died, he knew that allot would be lost...
PHOTOTAKER
Well-Known Member
and a bit befor he went up into heaven...
Jeremiah61
Member
One of the more important criterion for a book to be considered apocrypha was of course verifiable authorship; the main reason most books were left out of the New Testament was that the Council of Nicene was doubtful of their authorship and authenticity of available documents. Furthermore, is it not probable that such books were mentioned because they were widespread and most literate people in the region would understand what was being referred to? Histories composed by uninspired authors existed back then as well, no?
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Jeremiah,Jeremiah61 said:
First off, the Council of Nicea was not called to decide upon the Christian canon, but to settle matters pertaining to the nature of God.
Secondly, have you any proof whatsoever to substantiate what you are saying? Unless I am mistaken, most of these books were lost long before the canon was ever finalized.
Halcyon
Lord of the Badgers
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/
http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/
Hey mormonman, you probably already know about these sites, but just in case you didn't i linked them anyway.
They list pretty much all the old and new testament apocrypha that we know exist or did exist. They don't have online links to all the texts, but they do for a great many of them, and where they haven't they give some good information.
http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/
Hey mormonman, you probably already know about these sites, but just in case you didn't i linked them anyway.
They list pretty much all the old and new testament apocrypha that we know exist or did exist. They don't have online links to all the texts, but they do for a great many of them, and where they haven't they give some good information.
Lindsey-Loo
Steel Magnolia
I hate to cause a fuss (ok, i admit, i love causing fusses) but I believe that if God wanted certain books to be in the Bible, He would have made sure that they got put there. I believe that if a book is not part of the Bible, it was never meant to be part of the Bible.
Bishka
Veteran Member
Christiangirl0909 said:
Not necessarily.
God gave everyone their agency and to do what they wanted. God probably knew that MANY of the books in the Bible, but God does not force Himself or His word on ANYONE. Men do that, and make take away from His word. He could have, but He didn't because of agency.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Once again, which Bible are you referring to? The Catholic Bible has been around far longer than the KJV or the NIV or any of the other Bibles the various Protestant groups use. Did God make sure the Apocrypha got included when the Christian canon was finally agreed upon? And did He change His mind and make sure it got removed when the KJV came along? This perspective, quite frankly strikes me as more than a little bit naive. If that's really what you believe, okay... I just hope you're prepared to answer the questions that point of view raises.Christiangirl0909 said:
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
Katzpur said:
And this question is the more interesting because the Jewish scriptures typically DO NOT include the Apocrypha!
Regards,
Bruce