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In my opinion, no. I know that your religion says it is ok to judge. Mine does not.Aqualung said:You said it's not okay to judge because nobody knows everything. But what if I do know about the thing I'm judging? is it still not okay because I don't know everything?
My faith is what drives me. Judging others does me no good.Aqualung said:Okay, so if it's not okay to judge anything, how do you function at all? How do you know what you should and should not do (you specifically, not generally)?
I'm speaking in terms of judging others. I can judge things for myself just fine, thank you very much. I just don't feel it is appropriate to judge others.Aqualung said:You didn't answer my question. How do you know what a sin is if you can't judge actions to be either sinful or not? NObody asked why you don't judge "others". I asked how can you not judge at all.
Well, I'm not.pdoel said:I'm speaking in terms of judging others. I can judge things for myself just fine, thank you very much. I just don't feel it is appropriate to judge others.
Yet you had enough judgemental ability to see that sleeping around was a fault in him. Enough judgemental ability to see his hypocracy.Sometimes, people spend SO much time judging others, they fail to see their own faults.
Just as an FYI.Aqualung said:Yet you had enough judgemental ability to see that sleeping around was a fault in him. Enough judgemental ability to see his hypocracy.
Really? I defined religious beliefs with a dictionary? I didn't realize the word "judging" was a biblical word. I simply explained some differences when it comes to judging.Aqualung said:Ah, there you go. Your trade mark defining-religious-beliefs-with-a-dictionary. i wondered how long that would take...
:biglaugh:Aqualung said:Okay, whatever. You have gone in so many circles, I don't even know what you're talking about anymore.
Actually, yet again, please re-read your Critical Thinking thread.Aqualung said:Now you say that it's okay to judge acts. That's a complete flip-flop. It was especially hard to follow when you said that I couldn't judge anything because I don't know everything, and then you went through some weird argument about that and came out on the other side saying that knowledge had nothing to do with anything, and that I could judge stuff.
You should try to work on critical writing.pdoel said:Actually, yet again, please re-read your Critical Thinking thread.
You said you judge acts all the time with no qualms whatsoever. You judge what people do and even pray for them, because you judge them to be wrong. You judge the acts of the born-again christian who says homosexuality is a sin but commits adultery all the time.I NEVER said it's ok to judge acts. I NEVER said that you can't judge anything because you don't know everything.
Since you I"m sure don't know everything, how can you be so sure that you are following God's word? Aren't you just following your judgement of which actions follow god's words and which ones don't?What I said is that I can determine for myself what I believe to be right or wrong. I will lead my life, based on those beliefs. I follow God's word, not the word of man.
Doesn't that involve a judgement?We should definitely follow our heart when it comes to running or own lives.
Of course, and I don't tell people how to live their lives. You keep bringing up this tangent, and I don't quite understand why...But I don't see the point in telling others how to live THEIR lives (See the difference).
Not quite, see below.Aqualung said:You should try to work on critical writing.
Actually, I never said that. Please don't make up things that I never said.You said you judge acts all the time with no qualms whatsoever. You judge what people do and even pray for them, because you judge them to be wrong.
I did not judge her. I know that the Bible says the acts that she is commiting are sins, but do I know she would go to Hell for those? Not at all. Is it possible this is God's plan for her? Maybe she is to hit rock bottom before she can truly be saved. I do not know.You judge the acts of the born-again christian who says homosexuality is a sin but commits adultery all the time.
When did I ever say that I am sure I am following God's word? In fact (back to your critical reading assignment), I have stated quite a few times that while I feel in my heart I'm on the right path, I also know there's a good chance I'm no where close. All I can do is follow my faith. My faith tells me I'm walking the path that God has chosen for me. But I will not know for sure until I stand before the Lord.Since you I"m sure don't know everything, how can you be so sure that you are following God's word? Aren't you just following your judgement of which actions follow god's words and which ones don't?
I think that way, because it is what Christ taught us. It's what I have come to understand through years of prayer and going to Church. When you open your heart and let Christ in, it's amazing the change it can make in your life. So, that's why I think the way I do.Sure, it's clear what yiou're trying to say. IT's just unclear why you actually think that.
You did judge her. You didn't come right out and say, "I make this judgement" but what you wrote about her shows that you did in fact judge her.pdoel said:I did not judge her. I know that the Bible says the acts that she is commiting are sins, but do I know she would go to Hell for those? Not at all. Is it possible this is God's plan for her? Maybe she is to hit rock bottom before she can truly be saved. I do not know.
The point of the story is to show that she has laid judgement down on others based on things she has read in scripture. Yet she has ignored other parts of scripture when it comes to her own life. Which again, goes to my point that I think it's more important for us to focus on our own sins, rather than on those of others.
And how do you feel that? By judging your actions and the Bible, and seeing how well they match up.pdoel said:I have stated quite a few times that while I feel in my heart I'm on the right path
It is what you have judged to be what christ has taught us. It is what, in your judgement, his message was.pdoel said:I think that way, because it is what Christ taught us.
For the last time, do NOT put words in my mouth, or feelings in my heart, that are not there. I do NOT judge her. I have no idea if she is God's good grace. I have NO idea what God's plan is for her. My only statement is that her actions, as described in Scripture, are sins, while the actions she condones, are also sins.Aqualung said:You did judge her. You didn't come right out and say, "I make this judgement" but what you wrote about her shows that you did in fact judge her.
Just to end this. Please sure me where I ever said I cannot form an opinion for myself, on how I should or should not live my life? You are using the word "judge" to describe just about any action any person takes. If I decide to eat toast tomorrow for breakfast instead of eggs, I guess I'm judging that toast is better than eggs. If I put on a green shirt, then I guess I'm judging that green is the best color.And how do you feel that? By judging your actions and the Bible, and seeing how well they match up.
It is what you have judged to be what christ has taught us. It is what, in your judgement, his message was.
This is EXACTLY what I said you did!! You made a judgement, that her actions were sins, based on your judgements of the scriptures!pdoel said:My only statement is that her actions, as described in Scripture, are sins, while the actions she condones, are also sins.