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Featured Christians: Is marriage between a man and a woman?

Discussion in 'Same Faith Debates' started by YeshuaLovesYou, Dec 6, 2018.

  1. YeshuaLovesYou

    YeshuaLovesYou I'm in love with Yeshua.

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    Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 19:1-13 - King James Version
    People often challenge Christians to demonstrate what Jesus said against same same marriage. My general assumption is that He said nothing in favor of it. The point is not to be unlike Christ, but to convey the information, and let people decide how to live. In the preceeding link, Jesus refers to marriage between a man and a woman, as was the religious opinion of most Jews in His day.
    This: Bible Gateway passage: Ephesians 5:22-33 - King James Version link also shows marriage between a man and a woman. The husband is shown as the head of the wife, with Christ as the Head of the Christian Church.
    Another link, shown here: Bible Gateway passage: 1 Peter 3:1-7 - King James Version demonstrates that the wife is to obey the husband. Who does the obeying in a gay relationship?
    Conclusion, I personally believe marriage is between a man and a woman, but I am not here to force my religious beliefs on anyone, just to convey Scripture and its meaning.
     
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    Or because homosexual relationships were taboo in that culture at that time, not wanting to be unduly controversial and create a stumbling block for those who were culturally programmed into thinking certain ways with certain cultural biases against homosexuality, Jesus simply used the convention of referring to hetrosexual relationships.

    It does not mean Jesus was against love, in whatever forms that took. I wouldn't think he was, since God is Love. Jesus seemed to be about seeing beyond our prejudices and seeing as God sees, seeing beyond our culture's ideas of Truth and seeing with the eyes of the Spirit.
     
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    YeshuaLovesYou I'm in love with Yeshua.

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    What evidence can you provide that homosexuality is acceptable to God? My Christian faith is not cultural, it is religious. Did you review the evidence I provided?
     
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    That is a great application. Too many people say that just because Jesus didn't address a situation must translate into it being OK. He didn't speak about LSD either but I don't think He puts a stamp of approval on it either,/

    So your application it quite accurate.

    I like to also add that everyone has sinned and comes short of the glory of God. I think too many people are majoring on a certain aspect of what God doesn't agree with and forgetting that what man is doing or has done isn't the issue but rather what He did through the Cross of Jesus Christ. The issue is "For God so loved the world...." -- and that translate into loving people and not throwing the first stone.
     
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    YeshuaLovesYou I'm in love with Yeshua.

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    Thank you. I do believe God can heal gays who consent. I used to be bisexual, but Jesus is working on me daily.
     
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    When we understand grace, healing comes quickly and lovingly! God renews our souls through His word and through communion.

    God bless you!!
     
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    YeshuaLovesYou I'm in love with Yeshua.

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    I agree. Jesus is so wonderful to me.
     
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  9. YeshuaLovesYou

    YeshuaLovesYou I'm in love with Yeshua.

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    Who, me? I was not advocating illegal activity that I know of, was i? I would never force my religious beliefs on other people, just discussing on this site. Sorry if I offend.
     
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    YeshuaLovesYou I'm in love with Yeshua.

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    I did not mean to cause a problem.
     
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    Is God Love?

    Your faith is entwined with your culture. That's what makes it religious. Faith, on the other hand is beyond those two. It sees beyond culture. It sees beyond religion. It sees Love. It sees with the eyes of God.

    I am familiar with the passages.
     
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    YeshuaLovesYou I'm in love with Yeshua.

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    No it isn't. I am multicultural, and the Bible is the Bible. God being love does not condone sin.
     
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    As far as God as in concerned it is. I think the mistake we make is giving government the power to approve or disapprove our marriages. I mean we have to get a license from the government to be married. What is a license? It's a permit. In other words the government is permitting or allowing you to be married. As if you need permission! Everyone (who is reasonable) can be happy; if we get rid of government involvement in marriage.

    Really, single people shouldn't be discriminated against by not getting the same breaks from the government as married people anyway. So I say that before anyone says what about marriage benefits from the government? Well, explain why married people deserve it! :D
     
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    Multicultural simply means you have more than one culture influencing you. That's not being free from culture. It's actually just more complex programing. Faith sees beyond your programmings, from one or multiple cultural influences.

    The Bible is the Bible, which means many things to many people.

    God doesn't condone judging others.
     
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    This is disingenuous. You are saying that all love is good, and that is not the bible's position
    at all. There are many things we shouldn't love, some of them might even be good in some
    senses. People excused themselves from the kingdom of heaven because of attending to
    their marriage, or going about honest business (parable of the Lord's supper.)
    The bible's position on homosexuality is understood by those who read it. So too for adultery,
    divorce and the like. Love alone won't make the grade.
     
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    jesus broke the rules when it come to social norms. fraternizing with a married women and prostitutes were not considered kosher.


    fyi, the passages you quoted were not references made by jesus.
     
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    there is no sin in love

    1 Peter 4:8
    Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.


    the law is fulfilled where love is concerned.


    Proverbs 10:12
    Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.
     
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    They might not be kosher - but Jesus lived by principles higher than kosher.
     
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    Just one come to immediate attention, "Love not the world, neither the
    things in the world. If a man love the world, the love of the Father is not
    in him."

    sorry for any paraphrase.
     
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    love is the most high law. anything outside of it, is subject to the Law. there is nothing above it. this is why the first two commandments are alike and on which hang the whole of the law and the prophets.

    If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.


    notice any reference to the Law is singular, not plural.
     
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