averageJOE
zombie
Whatever. So you agree that it's perfectly ok for god to kill and murder?
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Christians in the military
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Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
does God give them that status?
We will be judged when the time comes by God.
Yes, we will be destroyed by Him if we are killers and murders and everyone who are wicked doers who are not in God's will.
PS: I am not saying we will be burned and tortured forever.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
So things can happen that are not according to God's will?
God gives us free will if we abide by His standards or not. If we choose to follow our own way, we will not be in His Kingdom.
That is so simple, friend.
While Canada does have an armed forces, in my experience, the US has a much more militarized culture than Canada does.
Oh - fun fact: on most parts of the Eisenhower Interstate System, 1 mile in 5 is built straight and level so that it can be converted into an airfield in time of war if needed.
Personally, I can't understand how anyone who believes this could ever have reason to go to war:
Matthew 6:25-34
However, I also don't see how anyone who believes this would ever have reason to keep a proper emergency supply, save for their retirement, or engage in evangelism.
Matthew 6:25-34
However, I also don't see how anyone who believes this would ever have reason to keep a proper emergency supply, save for their retirement, or engage in evangelism.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
You've not really answered my question. Does everything happen according to God's will or not?
Shermana
Heretic
Right, Jesus says, as in the quote which you snipped and didn't reply to, that all (the ones) who take the sword will die by the sword. Matthew 26:52
Matthew 26:52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
So let's try this again.
Ahem....
Jesus says ALL (The ones/anyone) who take the sword will die by the sword.
But not everyone who goes to war dies by weapon related wounds.
People who use weapons in self defense have more often than not, NOT died by weapon related injuries.
So you're left with two options.
#1: Jesus lied.
By your interpretation, Jesus NECESSARILY lied. No question. Because there are plenty of people who have used weapons and not died by weapons, or weapon related injuries.
#2: Jesus meant those who take the sword in an unjustified manner.
Let me know if you need further clarification.
Also, in your interpretation, and I hope you don't skip this question, if someone breaks into your home and is going to assault your wife and kids, are you going to just let them? Especially if you have the chance to get the drop on them?
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do you realize Jesus is rebuking that man? Jesus is saying you will die for the sword, not for God. Jesus' followers should not die for the sword. my goodness.
His followers should die for Jesus, not for the sword.
Elaborate your question. It seem like this is trick question.
"Die by the sword" is not the same thing as "die for the sword".
I think it's a perfectly straightforward question, but you don't like the implications of the answer.
It seems that you want to trap me with this question.
I will not play this kind of game.
blessings.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
The answer to that is 'no', it doesnt.
Gods will is expressed in the scriptures. He Wills that people obey his laws and he pleads with them to do so... but do people obey his laws? No. So obviously Gods will in that regard is not happening.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
It's not a trick - it's a simple yes or no question. You wrote earlier:
"Yes, we will be destroyed by Him if we are killers and murders and everyone who are wicked doers who are not in God's will."
I asked if this meant that some things do not happen according to God's will, which would be a direct contradiction of the notion of an infallible, omnipresent God. So, do you or do you not believe that everything that happens is according to God's will?
And "yes" or "no" would suffice. It's really not a difficult question.
What is mean by "will" is not just what God "wants" to happen - it's about things being according to his plan, so to speak. If God is omnipresent and all-knowing, then he knows and understands the consequences of every action and everything happens accordingly. Ergo, nothing can happen that God cannot control or cannot expect to happen. Is that true or not?
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Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
He certainly knows the consequences of what will happen, yes.
That is why he pleads with mankind not to behave in certain ways. Our bad conduct is not part of his plan....that is seen by the fact that he says whoever is acting wickedly will come to their finish. Prov 2:22 As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.
If it was his 'plan' that people act wickedly, then why is he determined to destroy such wicked ones? Even his adversary the Devil is soon to be destroyed. Obviously they are not part of his plan.