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Featured Christians can you be certain your bible is trust worthy?

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by juiwei2000, Oct 15, 2018.

  1. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe any religion can say it but only the Holy Spirit can verify it. He verifies that what Moses said is correct.
     
  2. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe the other religions get a lot of things wrong but I will admit that once in while one will have a reasonably good insight. For instance I once thought the statement in the Qu'ran that man was formed from a blood clot to be too bizarre to be true until I started putting two and two together.
     
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    Ehav4Ever Well-Known Member

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    I know this is an old post but what you have written is not correct concerning Judaism. Judaism does not hold that there is "other gods are lying evil demonic false gods pretending to be god AKA Satan." There is no such concept in Judaism.
     
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    74x12 Well-Known Member

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    Many have tried to get rid of the Bible. It's pages hallowed by the blood of martyrs.
     
  5. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe Jews know about Satan because he appears in the first chapter of Job.
     
  6. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

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    All the religious scriptures are works that have been written by men. Some of them by men who believed that they were writing the word of god. and others by men commonly thought to be prophets.
    Most seem to haver been written in good faith.

    The Bible is worthy of study because it gives a very wide picture of the lives and times and the the earliest beliefs in the God of both the Jews and the Christians.
    It is virtually our only source of the teachings and life and death of Jesus.

    However no work of man is entirely accurate. and the books that have come down to us have been both selected edited and preserved by various Christian churches. As a scriptural lexicon and encyclopedia it is neither complete nor totally accurate. words and meanings have largely lost their context.
    As a book of knowledge covering creation and science and prehistory. it is little more than myth and fable. which should not be allowed to get in the way of the wisdom of Jesus' teachings.

    Should we interpret the Bible for ourselves? I suggest that we all do , or we are bound to follow someone else's interpretation unthinkingly.

    Is this Cherry picking?... It certainly is, but then some cherries are riper than others, and some are distinctly worm eaten. It is to our credit that we are able choose the good fruit.
     
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  7. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe the Bible is the word of God.

    I believe a person should not interpret by himself and it is best to interpret with the help of the Holy Spirit.
     
  8. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

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    We are all guided and comforted by the Holy Spirit.

    But what do you mean by the Word of God?
    How did it pass down and eventually be written down in Greek.
    The Bible comes from many sources over several thousand years.
    Even the books of the New Testament are nearly two thousand years old and come from many sources.
     
  9. John1.12

    John1.12 Free gift

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    We don't all believe in the same God .Allah is not the same God of the bible.
     
  10. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Yes, it is.

    Both "Allah" [in Arabic] and "Eloheim" [in Hebrew] are from one of the Sumerian names for a god called "El". If one reads the Quran, it's clearly the same God as found in Torah and the NT, but like with so many other things, there's differences of opinion as to the details.

    El (deity) - Wikipedia
     
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    John1.12 Free gift

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    As a Christian I'm telling you Allah is not the God of the bible . You can try play around with titles ,but the description of each claims are radically different. Its literally impossible that they are talking about the same God .
     
  12. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    As a Christian, I can categorically tell you Allah and Eloheim are one and the same but with different "takes":
    The Abrahamic religions, also referred to collectively as the world of Abrahamism, are a group of religions that claim descent from the worship of the God of Abraham, an Ancient Semitic religion of the Bronze Age Israelites,[2] the direct predecessor of various ancient Israelite sects, including the remaining two extant Israelite religions of Judaism and Samaritanism, with all other Abrahamic religions descending from Judaism.[2] The Abrahamic religions are monotheistic, with the term deriving from the patriarch Abraham[2][3] (a major figure described in the Torah, Tanakh, Bible, and Quran, variously recognized by Jews, Samaritans, Christians, Muslims, and others).[3][4] The three major Abrahamic religions trace their origins to the first two sons of Abraham: for Jews and Christians it is his second son Isaac, and for Muslims his elder son Ishmael...[2] --https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions
     
  13. actsfourthirty

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    Christians don’t believe cos of the Bible alone

    Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

    17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

    Acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles

    lk 10:16 he who hears you hears me

    Matt 28:19 teach all nations

    apostles have teaching authority from Christ.
    Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13 apostles have truth from God we must be taught Lk 1:4 instructed

    Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
    Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

    the church of the apostles is the pillar and ground of truth!
     
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