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Featured Christianity has a real dark history,Has it changed much?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Zita, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. Zita

    Zita Solitary Eclectic Witch

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    The church and Christianity has demonstrated a disregard for human freedom,dignity,and self-determination.
    It has attempted to control,contain and confine spirituality,the relationship between an individual and God.As a result, Christianity has helped create a society in which people are alienated not only from each other but also from the divine.
    The Christian Church since Old have embedded in the belief of a solely masculine authoritarian God who demands unquestioning obedience and who punishes those who doesn't.also that fear was essential to sustain Christians.
    .Within the 1st centuries of the Christian era they formed the ideological foundation for much of the dark side of the Christian Church history (100-400 C.E.).
    Christian church based not upon love and support but upon fear. The Bible repeatedly exhorts people to fear God and keep his commandments, this was the duty of man.It was also in belief that God must be prone to anger to demand disciple,at this time God was to believed to have masculine and feminine aspects.
    One shroud accept and submit to whatever the Church reaches.
    Between 200-500 C.E. Christianity became the official religion for the Roman Empire. and they revised Christian writings to make Christianity more acceptable, they chose form many gospels and writings to construct the bible,them the church edited ti's messages with each translation and Gospel scholars showed that a few of the gospels9scriptures contradict one another,but let it remain.
    300-500C.E. the church formulated it's doctrine to justifies it's use of force in order .
    Some of the doctrine is as follows:a person can have free will and responsible for his actions.
    Condemning sexual please because it is evil.
    Th Church formulated it's position regarding reincarnation. The Christian scholar believed and that the human soul exists before it is incarnated into a physical body that the human soul passe from one body to another on earth until he is reunited with God after total enlightenment..It wasn't until 533 the Second Council decided to remove that from the doctrine, and told the Christians not to believe this at all. His reasoning was because if a soul continues to live and incarnate lifetime after lifetime he won't be subject to damnation, he had to maintain that control. I got more info to come.
    It sounds the same to me so far, except reincarnation, what do you think?
     
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  2. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

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    Do you want me to get in my ******* time machine and change that history for you and then may we get your approval?
     
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    Christianity did not follow Christ Jesus’s command, very soon it became political entity.
     
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  4. David T

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    So rather superficial!!! Has muched changed? Since that changes in creeps and jerks i would say they are normal..
     
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  5. Zita

    Zita Solitary Eclectic Witch

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    excuse me why the attitude? I didn't ask for approval,nor do I need approval. Can you read or do you have a learning disability?:confused:
     
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    Of course, there are changes. It is mostly individual but I think that collective unconscious works it upward.
     
  7. David T

    David T Well-Known Member
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    And so your point exactly? I am not defending here just pointing out that christianity tends to be pretty normal and thats the way it is.

    Be careful with christians are xyz thats so young. In history factually christians have been killed by christians for being heros just like jesus. In history more times than we can count christians have been on two sides of the debates. To broad brush the faith means you cant see the diamonds. If you cant see the diamonds you have much to learn.
     
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    How about you and I get into the dark history of the New Age movement like how it is rooted in the pernicious racism of Madam Blavatsky, the schizophrenic posturings of Edgar Cayce and the charlantries of J.Z Knight and others of their ilk. I sure didn't see anything big happen during that Harmonic Convergence thing.
     
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  9. SugarOcean

    SugarOcean ¡pɹᴉǝM ʎɐʇS

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    Excerpted from:
    The Dark Side of Christian History: By Helen Ellerbe

    I've owned the book for years. Don't take it as credible historic accounting of Christian history.

    A Critique of Helen Ellerbe
     
  10. David T

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    Yes. Thats jungian... nice.
    Btw Personally i think writers are the screwiest of all artists. Way worse than musicians. RF is a good example of that!!!!
     
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    I was talking more about their
    What is wrong with you people here today?why the smart comments. I just asked a question.Do you ride the little school bus?
     
  13. David T

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    Are you defending a delusion by pointing out a delusion? Although i also know broad brushing anything always gives us the results we want. i also know factually christianity has many many diamonds amongst the coal dust.
     
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    I think your post needs some citations, I further think it is a hodgepoge of misinformation, I further think your reference to reincarnation is baloney it wasn´t even discussed at the first council of Jerusalem nor the second at Nicea. I am very well versed in Church history, and doctrines, especially of the Reformation...I would like to know what crackpot you got this from, or, or, or, are you the originator
     
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  16. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Let's face it, Christianity is just a man-made religion with all the trimmings and fixin's. It has its dark side just like any other religion out there. That's just how human nature rolls.
     
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    All religions are man-made
     
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    Sort of like staring at a pile of coal and thats all you see. If thats all you see do you see more than what you are complaining about?

    I could tell you of a man who decended into hell, and stood firm and proclaimed i will not bend.
    That dude was a Gem, a diamond in the coal Dust. He wrote about it very recent btw.

    I could write about the farmer poet railing against the church as he is in church..

    I could write about a thousand gems in that pile of coal. Ypu on the othrr hand have yet to point out even one.

    I might further go on when you disrespect the faith you disrepect the late great Reverand Martin Luther King. And that list i can go on. and on all day long. RESPECT TRUTH... yes it can be a coal pile but from coal comes diamonds. Seeing diamonds is hard work stop neing lazy. Being a diamond is even harder get to work.

    I have a dream speech.
     
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  19. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Yep. With all the pluses and minuses that comes with each package.
     
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    ..too many fallacies, and cheap shots taking place here.. :rolleyes:

    1. You cannot condemn an entire ideology because 'some' do not adhere to the standards of the ideology.
    2. HUMAN BEINGS, and their flaws and tendencies, cause evil, not 'Christianity!' :eek:
    3. It would need to be shown that the ideology is promoting the behavior being criticized.. genocide, oppression, murder, etc. Christianity, as an ideology, promotes the opposite.
    4. Christianity has been a beacon of freedom, enlightenment, and equality, and is the foundation of western civilization.
    5. In the last 50 yrs, a constant propaganda stream demonizing Christianity, and blaming it for all the evil in the world has been indoctrinated in progressive institutions, competing to be the dominant worldview.
     
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