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Christian: What constitutes sin?

Discussion in 'Same Faith Debates' started by No*s, Mar 9, 2005.

  1. pearl

    pearl Well-Known Member

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    <Adam was subjected to inherited by his ancestors?>

    ?????? Adam's ancestors
     
  2. precept

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    "Sin is the transgression of God's law." 1 John 3:4

    Any command of God; given to humans; when not obeyed, it is sin

    "Love the Lord with all your heart" is the first and great commandment given to humans by God[Matthew 22:37-40]....If this commandment is disobeyed by humans; these humans would be sinning against God..... This commandment directs humans to so love God that everything God commands humans to do, will be done willingly, lovingly, voluntarily and never asking questions as to why it ought to be done. "And the second is as important as the first..."Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself".... Any act against one's neighbor, that would not be liked when done to oneself, is sinning against God and neighbor. James 4:17 " Therefore to him that knoweth to do good,and doeth it not, to him it is sin." And also 1 John 5:17 "All unrighteousness is sin".


    Your second question is answered in Psalm 51:5 by the prophet of God, king David.." Behold I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me". The Apostle of Jesus, Paul, confirms this fact....Romans 3:23 "For ALL HAVE SINNED and come short of the glory of God;...".


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  3. Scott1

    Scott1 Well-Known Member

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    Sin is an offense against God: "Against you, you alone, have I sinned, and done that which is evil in your sight." Sin sets itself against God's love for us and turns our hearts away from it. Like the first sin, it is disobedience, a revolt against God through the will to become "like gods," knowing and determining good and evil. Sin is thus "love of oneself even to contempt of God." In this proud self- exaltation, sin is diametrically opposed to the obedience of Jesus, which achieves our salvation. It has been defined as "an utterance, a deed, or a desire contrary to the eternal law." .

    No.
     
  4. No*s

    No*s Captain Obvious

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    We agree almost line by line (imagine that :p). The big difference between us is that we feel sin is more than simply something contrary to the eternal law. It is missing the mark in any way, though I could see how one could define the eternal law as such :).
     
  5. Scott1

    Scott1 Well-Known Member

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    Anything? If I shoot a basketball and miss, it's a sin?

    If I try to paralel park and have to back up 15 times.... that's a sin?

    I don't understand this, my friend...... it seems your explaination missed the mark.;)
     
  6. No*s

    No*s Captain Obvious

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    I don't think I'd go quite that far :). However, you are right, my explanation has "missed the mark" to be open to such a rebuttal :).

    Here's an example. A man is at work, and he does his work improperly due to negligence of the moment. Nobody was hurt, nothing was wronged. Yet, still, he did not work for his employer as he should. Another instance is saying something that, without intending it, caused hurt to another person, though no lack of love was present. This is sin. It isn't intentional, but it still caused a break due to our language not quite being what it should be.

    We can, and will, hurt others and our dealings with God when we have no real way to quantify how we did it. It's our imperfection and corruption working itself out, and we must always struggle against it. Now, I don't have an easy way to quantify when it becomes that. If I did, we'd be back to being able to quantify it with an eternal law alone :).
     
  7. Scott1

    Scott1 Well-Known Member

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    OK.... I get ya now..... we agree:

    The morality of human acts depends on:

    - the object chosen;

    - the end in view or the intention;

    - the circumstances of the action.

    The object, the intention, and the circumstances make up the "sources," or constitutive elements, of the morality of human acts.

    A morally good act requires the goodness of the object, of the end, and of the circumstances together. An evil end corrupts the action, even if the object is good in itself (such as praying and fasting "in order to be seen by men").

    The object of the choice can by itself vitiate an act in its entirety. There are some concrete acts - such as fornication - that it is always wrong to choose, because choosing them entails a disorder of the will, that is, a moral evil.

    It is therefore an error to judge the morality of human acts by considering only the intention that inspires them or the circumstances (environment, social pressure, duress or emergency, etc.) which supply their context. There are acts which, in and of themselves, independently of circumstances and intentions, are always gravely illicit by reason of their object; such as blasphemy and perjury, murder and adultery. One may not do evil so that good may result from it.
     
  8. No*s

    No*s Captain Obvious

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    Scott...we're going to have to stop doing this. We're supposed to squabble and argue in a debate thread ;).

    The only other thing I will add is that if an action results in results that harm the soul, it is also sinful, even if the object and intention was good, the results can still be detrimental to the soul. That, though, doesn't lesson the agreement we've reached there :).
     
  9. aisha

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    sin is naturaaly caused if one is not purified of their heart and soul. sins are very common and hard to prevent this is why one needs purity. this is a personal opinion and not everyone may agree
     
  10. Dr. Khan

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    It's been so long, I forgot.:) :jiggy: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. this is John3:9 And because I believe it because I continue to look to Jesus everyday. For it is also written "for as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Because I continue to look for God in secret and he reveal himself according to that which is written, I have no consience of sin. I'm aware of sin but I continue to walk in the word of God and in him is no sin. I'm covered by the blood of Jesus to completeness every day. Therefore sin has no power over me. This is what Jesus died to give me..... the power of an endless life to get to try it out here in this world, while I live, I move and have my being in him. I live Christ. I dwell in victory. This is the inheritance that is in the seed of Abraham.
     
  11. Dr. Khan

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    Because I believe these things I see them now in this world everyday. Because It is written Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and for ever.
     
  12. intruth

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    Defining sin is simple from the scriptures, ..."to him who knows the right thing to do, and does not do it, to him it is sin"
     
  13. Baerly

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    Sin is transgression of THE LAW (1John 3:4). I know that will break many hearts but that is what the bible says. I guess we are under law after all (Gal.6:2) (James 1:25). Without law there would be no sin.

    No,Sin is not inherited,at least according to (Ezekiel 18:20).


    20The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: --in love Baerly
     
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