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Christian pastor arrested for faith and then freed from Turkish prison.

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I'm glad he's home safe-
I prayed for him...when he was in jail

And Turkey would want to join the EU?
yeah....when chicken fly
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
In this stunning victory, religious liberty was protected. He was never guilty of a crime, just of being a Christian.
That mess was never really about his religion, certain not as a primary factor. It was a much deeper and wider political dispute that he got caught up in because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I find your attempt to claim it as a purely Christian issue and victory does a gross disservice to with wider political issues in Turkey and all of the people who continue to suffer as a consequence.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
He's an Evangelical Christian. More specifically, he's an elder of the Evangelical Presbyterian Church. One of their tenets is that marriage is heterosexual and monogamous.
It's one thing to believe that, but another to impose it upon the unwilling.
Has he advocated that?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
EU has been giving them money for integration purposes. Though apparently those funds haven't been used as promised.
They've been giving them money to try to slow the number of migrants coming through their country. A huge difference from being a member,
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
That's quite a stretch.
How do we know he doesn't seek only the willing?
By definition as a Presbyterian, he does. In Presbyterian/Reformed belief, the only ones who are willing to convert are those who are predestined to convert--sucks about the rest of us.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
They've been giving them money to try to slow the number of migrants coming through their country. A huge difference from being a member,
If they become a member, Aleppo becomes the eastern border of the EU..is that acceptable?
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Religious liberty? Does Turkey guarantee such a thing?
Lmao no. Their continual slow push to extinguish the last vestiges of Orthodox Christianity in the country (focusing most of their attacks against the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople) are proof enough of that. And if that wasn't enough, look at Ataturk's genocides of the Greeks and the Armenians.

Turkey isn't a secular democracy. Erdogan's a determined Islamofascist hell-bent on making Turkey the next Saudi Arabia or Iran.
 
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