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Christ Returns?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jul 11, 2017.

  1. Fool

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    Is this the promised return?

    Rev 10
    10 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:


    Matthew 24
    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


    He will appear in Asia, at home in Europe.
    One who is issued from the great Hermes ... C 10 Q 75 Nostradamus

    ... at the eve of another desolation
    When the perverted church is atop her most high and sublime dignity ...,
    There will proceed one born from a branch long barren,
    Who will deliver the people of the world from a meek and voluntary slavery
    And place them under the protection of Mars ...
    The flame of a sect shall spread the world over ... Epistle to Henry II
     
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    Nostradamus is Biblically wrong. When Jesus returns His feet will touch the Mount of Olives(Zech 14:4 & Acts 1:11).
     
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    are you a fundamentalist? because the pharisees were too and Jesus had to correct them.

    he's going to be accomplishing a heck of a split when the mountain is cleaved in to and that great valley of Azal is formed.

    will he be like one of those kung fu fighters balancing between two poles?

    And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
     
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    The Pharisees were not fundamentalist, they were legalists--you need to keep all of God's rules for Him to accept you and bless you. That is why Jesus had to correct them. You tithe mint, and dill and cummin and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law, justice and mercy and faithfulness...

    Fundamental is are not legalisits.

    Yes, omnipotence has some great advantages doing the impossible.

    No.
     
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    fundamentalism
    a form of a religion, especially Islam or Protestant Christianity, that upholds belief in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture.

    "Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering."

    following the exact letter of the law is fundamentalism. non-fundamentalist follow the spirit of the law, its action isn't based on formal language, formal appearance, or literalism.

    Legalism refers to any doctrine which states salvation comes strictly from adherence to the law. It can be thought of as a works-based religion. Groups in the New Testament said to be falling into this category include the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes, Judaizers, and Nicolaitans.


    jesus isn't omnipotent.

    case in point

    matthew 13:58
    And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.
     
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    Revelation 10 isn't about the final return; if we read the rest of the contexts...

    Matthew 24:29 states it is after the sun is darkened, that the final coming on the clouds takes place.

    This event of the sun being darkened happens in Revelation 6:12-17 where it is the penultimate 6th seal before the New Kingdom, as reality is removed... In Revelation 10 reality is still here.

    It is the 7th trumpet, as Heaven is seen here within Revelation 11:15-19, where we see the same great earthquake, spoken by all the prophets.

    It is then the 7th bowl in Revelation 16:17-21 as reality is removed. :innocent:
     
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    the 7th trumpet is the uncovering, or paramatman revealed within the ALL

    little boy blue wakes up and lets his light shine before the world.

    And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
     
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    The 7th Trumpet and Bowl is Mahapralaya... That is when everyone sees Yeshua; before then he only comes secretly before the day. :innocent:
     
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    joshua isn't paramatman. change a mind and you change a body, a new heaven and a new earth from a butterfly effect.

    the kingdom of God is within us, paramatman is NOW
     
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    But, the Bible is wrong about several things.
     
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    Maybe you thinking so, is because of a lack of understanding.

    Post you 3 favorite things the Bible is wrong about and maybe we can see.
     
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    Pi is not equal to 3. 1 Kings 7:23-26 (KJV) & 2 Chronicles 4:2-5 (KJV). God should know better, right?

    The earth did not exist before the sun. The Genesis creation story puts the creation of the earth after the sun. Also, it describes the moon as a "lesser light", which is incorrect. The moon is merely a reflecting surface for light from the sun. It does not produce any light. Finally, God created "light" before any light generating celestial body. So, where did the light come from? Did God just create the idea of light?

    Before the construction of the Tower of Babel (2500 - 2000 BC) the Bible claims that all people spoke the same language. We know this to be patently false.

    No evidence of the mass exodus of the Jews from Egypt as told in Exodus.

    Adam and Eve did not exist. There was no garden with only two people. If Adam and Eve were really just early homo sapiens, Eve was certainly not created with a rib of Adam.

    The story of Jesus' birth is not true as told. The story claims that Mary and Joseph were in Nazareth on their way to their home city for a Roman census. The problem is that the Romans kept immaculate records of such things, and there is absolutely no evidence of any census taking place at that time in that area.
     
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