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Featured Chiristianity can be harmful to children.

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Nowhere Man, Mar 2, 2019.

  1. TagliatelliMonster

    TagliatelliMonster Well-Known Member

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    The funny thing is, that the thing you're "interpreting", is actually also.... just an opinion. The opinion of the author, to be exact.
     
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    I recall that as a youth growing up, I was careful of whom I kept close contact.
    I did not keep close contact with those who did drugs, and were reckless, or rebellious.
    The more I learned about people, the more cautious I became of whom I kept close contact with. For example, I came to despise being around people who would speak good things in front of someone's face, and then talk bad things behind their back. I think the name given to those kind of people is, back-stabbers, or backbiters. There is another name too. Is it hypocrite? Yeah, that's it.

    I found that my choice of whom I kept close contact with, and whom I avoided close contact with, was a safeguard for me. I had good friends. Not the spoiled ones that would lie to their parents about where they ere going, so they could spend time with their rebellious, binge drinking, drug sniffing, immoral "friends". How it safeguarded me from the trouble some ended up in, not to mention those that ended up dead.

    I came to realize that there was wisdom to many of the words our so-called "stupid" "old-fashioned" parents and grandparents uttered. One I often heard was the adage, "One bad apple spoils the whole bunch." How true.
    Later, I realized that many of those adages were actually taken from the Bible, but just adjusted to fit the culture.
    Psalm 26:4, 5
    4I do not associate with deceitful men, And I avoid those who hide what they are. 5 I hate the company of evil men, And I refuse to associate with the wicked.

    Proverbs 13:20 The one walking with the wise will become wise, But the one who has dealings with the stupid will fare badly.

    Proverbs 22:24, 25
    24Do not keep company with a hot-tempered man Or get involved with one disposed to rage, 25 So that you never learn his ways And ensnare yourself.

    1 Corinthians 5:6 Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven ferments the whole batch of dough?

    1 Corinthians 15:33 Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits.
    (Genesis 49:5-7; Jeremiah 15:17)

    Even keeping close contact with people who were supposed to carry out God's services, but failed to because of their sinful desires, was condemned by God himself. (Hosea 6:9; 1 Corinthians 5:9-11)

    In God's word, he specifically warned persons against having close contact - even associating - with those whose worship was not in harmony with Christ's teachings. (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) 14 Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? 15 Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer share in common with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I will reside among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” 17“‘Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take you in.’” 18 “‘And I will become a father to you, and you will become sons and daughters to me,’ says Jehovah, the Almighty.”

    The Israelites were taught this lesson throughout their lives. Those whose worship became contaminated with idolatry, were cut of, and their idols destroyed.
    The Bible says clearly, "Flee from idolatry". (1 Corinthians 10:14)

    So, I think keeping good association, and avoiding bad association, staying away from contaminated worship, and not keeping close contact with those who don't demonstrate that they love God's law and his word, nor want to follow it, is a good thing for anyone to do.
    If that makes me or an organization that follows that principle, a cult, then evidently the term cult has been greatly misused, and misapplied here. That's not what a cult is, to my knowledge.

    What you said here, is clearly false.
    It is clear that we do inquire into other person's belief and faith. Some don't seem to know how to answer us though.


    I did not say that you said it, nor am I putting words in your mouth. Nor do I like words put into my mouth or my thoughts. :D
    I'm making a suggestion. You just have to confirm or deny it, that's all.
    If you don't love their teaching, then I suggest you hate them - especially after what you said here.
    However, if you neither love them, nor hate them... hmmm... I'll keep my thoughts to myself. :)


    Hmmm.


    I didn't read all the posts, is true. I did read that one where you said... And you can't help but to lie again as idolatry involves praying to a material object and expecting it to do something. Catholic teachings forbid praying to any object. If I make an object, that's not idolatry; but if I take an object and worship it, that's "idolatry". See the difference?
    Is that so though?
    Idolatry, as I understand it, is the veneration, love, worship, or adoration of an idol.
    An idol is an image, a representation of anything, real or imagined, that people may use in worship.
    I don't know if you agree, but you can check the facts for yourself.


    I disagree with your view, and I think many Catholic followers don't even understand the basic tenants of their own belief system.
    I didn't think people who look into the system are brainwashed either, since many people who highlight the idol worship don't have leaders, as many of them don't have a religion, but simply do their homework.
    If anything, the brainwashed individuals, would be those who try to defend what they are made to swallow, and can't even explain what their religious system believes about most things.
    I believe that if you could explain to me what I asked, you would.

    Anyway, I took the time to research it - Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament - myself, and it's to me, nothing but pure idolatry.
    They don't even explain certain things about their rituals - like making the sign of the cross with the monstrance. ...a blessing... really? Must be a big blessing.
    When we see it for what it is, it is evident that all of it is idol worship,

    No scriptures are used to explain anything - why any of these rituals are done. The history has nothing to do with scriptural requirements.
    Jesus said, " So you have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition. You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said: This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.’", and this is exactly what I am seeing here. (Matthew 15:6-9)



    Yes. It's idolatry. the son in the eye of the sun is blessing the people.
    Thanks. Take care metis .
     
  3. shmogie

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    No, not opinions, and God, the author is 100% correct and reliable from every perspective you can imagine and millions you cannot
     
  4. shmogie

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    Nice try at the old leave out parts of what was written to make the writer say what was not intended.

    I said, ¨ the Bible does not have a problem with it, it is not tolerated¨

    That was probably too subtle for you, a problem is something to be solved, with an ambiguous unknown solution.

    Non toleration is clear, there is only one solution, accept the solution, or not.



    You must be new here, at least I don´t recall hearing from you in the years I have been here. You certainly attempt a clumsy beginners shukin' and jivein´ ploy that hangs on one misrepresented statement. No one with RF experience will be fooled by your juvenile trick.

    So, you believe homosexuals are born, and it isn´t a behavior.

    Many do.

    There is no accepted scientific theory for this idea. There is no homosexual gene. hypotheses range from brain size to an overbearing father or mother.

    Please, knock yourself out in trying to find an accepted theory to prove your point.

    Yes, sexually active unrepentant homosexuals cannot join as official members of the Church. That is the way it is, it isn´t my rule, you will have to file a complaint with God.
     
  5. Shad

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    Nothing unrelated to the mainstream Christian concepts of it and the emotions those created. I lived on a farm for years so was exposed to death of livestock from cattle to product, predators kills/killed and accidents (mercy kill if needed). The imagery I can remember was tame so was mundane in comparison.
     
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    Neither do I since I do not believe in or teach the doctrine of "Original Sin".

    The scriptures do not support that belief. Children do not need baptism.

    Maybe you should look and see that not are "Christianity" is equal.
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    I don't hate anyone, and let me just say that using an either/or dichotomy is nonsensical. To place such "hate" in my mind is so utterly immoral and disgusting.

    I did long ago and I still continue to study even at my ag-- er, I mean maturity. :D

    Absolute nonsense, which is why having a serious discussion with JW's like you in general is darn near impossible.

    Even within the circles of Judaism, there's questions dealing with what exactly is "idolatry", but the one thing that is agreed upon is that the description of a "graven image" is to "make and worship", and Catholics are told that we are only to worship God.

    Your JW leaders teach you that the Church teaches "idol worship", and that simply is a bold-faced lie. Maybe you should seek out a denomination that doesn't invent and perpetrate lies like this, or at least check things yourself from multiple sources instead of blindly believing your leaders. If you are unwilling to do so, then all you are doing is enhancing and parroting their lies.
     
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    Christianity is ultimately a cult of death centered around human sacrifice. Some popular variants involve also some forms of what can be technically called cannibalism.

    And that is the nice part.

    The naughty parts involve killing children, women, genocide, slavery, incest, turn rapists into husbands of their victims, delivering ones daughters to gang rapists so that guests are not troubled, etc.

    For that reason, it should be rated very R. I would say not before you are 18. Needless to say, swearing on it is ludicrous.

    The fact that it is not the case is the obvious realization that if it were indeed rated only for adults, it would probably lose its Holy Book status in two generations. At most.

    Ciao

    - viole
     
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    So you seem to be indicating that I didn't research anything for myself. What more can I say... :)

    Oh. Just one thing.... Lighten up dude. You seem :mad: Just :)
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Actually :) is the way I am in "real life" probably 90% of the time, but my French roots enhanced by my Sicilian wife's roots, makes me quite emotional at times, and even more so as I've gotten ol-- er, there I go again!-- more mature.

    Take care.
     
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    Hmmmm. Adam blamed the woman too. ;)
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Smart guy. :)
     
  13. Muffled

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    I believe my church did not expose me to Christianity until High School. I think that is a big mistake. I heard the stories of Daniel in the Lion's den and Meshach, Shadrach and Abednego in the fiery furnace but I can't say it impacted my psyche at all. Now Snow White terrified me because I did like to eat apples.
     
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    I believe reality kicked in for me when a friend was killed by a car hitting him while he was riding his bicycle.
     
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    I didn't need the Bible to tell me about cruelty undeserved. I was bullied.
     
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    Now now. You know if your wife hears you, you and the dog will be fighting over who gets to sleep in the corner of the shed.
    Please admit you are wrong. :)
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Trust me, I have had to do so on a great many occasions, which is why tomorrow we're celebrating our 52nd wedding anniversary.

    BTW, we do accept presents. :)
     
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    Hey! Congratulations!! That is great, metis; hope you'll have many more!
     
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    Your wife is very forgiving... Many occasions sleeping with the dog for roughly 52 years, and you haven't learned your lesson. :)
    Oh. she must realize you can't help yourself... speaking without thinking. :tonguewink:
    To be blessed with a wife like that, there must be a whole lot of good things about you, to make up for that shortcoming. :)
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    Now please.... don't go telling her you got this for the dog.
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    :facepalm:
     
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    What really hurts children is the dogma belief in scientific materialism where nothing is divine an gutting environment protection laws is okay because people are really nothing more than just fancy DNA machines.
     
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