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China swallows tibet are nepal and bhutan next in line?

hi folks,
as you might be aware The People's Republic of China has annexed Tibet by use of its military might against a nation which has virtually no defence forces to speak of. the only resistance met my the chinese army were unarmed tibetan protestors who were ruthlessly supressed. in these times of "human rights" and "civilised dialogue" how could china get away with it? unfortunately tibet was left lurching in the wind by its close friends like india and the russian federation. and the final straw came from His Exalted Highness Barack Hussein Obama on his visit to china. obama callously declared tibet to be "an integral part of china".
on one hand the White House and Pentagon high-honchos keep harping on how "the dragon" is becoming too big to handle in asia. then why does Uncle Sam look the other way on tibet when this is clearly going to encourage china's blatant imperialism ?
the concern from the indian point of view is that tibet ,nepal and bhutan have served as a buffer zone between india and china. if china invades and swallows nepal and bhutan who are militarily davids before the chinese goliath the chinese border would virtually touch a large tract of north india. which is an alarming prospect to say the least.
nepal is politically unstable to say the least while bhutan is land-locked and too small to outlast a military onslaught by china.
your thoughts on this matter ladies and gentlemen?
 

Faithfreedom

i gotta change my avatar
..how could china get away with it?
.. why does Uncle Sam look the other way on tibet
China is rich; it is a lender nation - not a debtor nation
China bankrolls USA.
USA is heavily in debt to China.
China has a huge market for goods and services - Economics.

Tibet is poor. Poor people have few friends - and none of them powerful.
(thank-you India for giving The Daila Lama sanctuary, though)

Sorry to say, but this is the way the world works.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
hi folks,
as you might be aware The People's Republic of China has annexed Tibet by use of its military might against a nation which has virtually no defence forces to speak of. the only resistance met my the chinese army were unarmed tibetan protestors who were ruthlessly supressed. in these times of "human rights" and "civilised dialogue" how could china get away with it? unfortunately tibet was left lurching in the wind by its close friends like india and the russian federation. and the final straw came from His Exalted Highness Barack Hussein Obama on his visit to china. obama callously declared tibet to be "an integral part of china".
on one hand the White House and Pentagon high-honchos keep harping on how "the dragon" is becoming too big to handle in asia. then why does Uncle Sam look the other way on tibet when this is clearly going to encourage china's blatant imperialism ?
the concern from the indian point of view is that tibet ,nepal and bhutan have served as a buffer zone between india and china. if china invades and swallows nepal and bhutan who are militarily davids before the chinese goliath the chinese border would virtually touch a large tract of north india. which is an alarming prospect to say the least.
nepal is politically unstable to say the least while bhutan is land-locked and too small to outlast a military onslaught by china.
your thoughts on this matter ladies and gentlemen?

Don't worry. With an uncontrollable mass, an increase in education, and a collective dissatisfaction with injustice, it is only a matter of time before China enters heavy hitting reforms similar to other countries during their revolutions.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
America only promotes freedom and democracy superficially, because when it comes to the game of wealth, power and influence, ethics, virtues and values don't mean ****. America has always been willing to tolerate tyranny and injustice when it comes to preserving political and economic interests, and only denounces it when it becomes a convenient pretext for ulterior motives.
 
should india consider a pre-emptive strike aginst china? as it is china "officially" expressed displeasure over indian prime minister manmohan singh's visit to the indian state of arunachal pradesh to which china stakes a ridiculous claim. satellite vigilance has also revealed that china has speeded up building roads in the area near its border to arunachal pradesh. preparation for another stealthy invasion like in1962?
 

Smoke

Done here.
China annexed Tibet in 1950. I'm not certain what course of action is being urged by those who think the U.S. should not "look the other way."

Nor has anybody suggested any reason why China might want to annex Bhutan and Nepal -- much less India, which is the second most populous country in the world and a nuclear power.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend sthitpradnya,

China swallows tibet are nepal and bhutan next in line?

It is simple, human nature is to be independent, democratic and capitalistic so as friend dust1n states it will be not be long when you will have as many countries as regions in China for sure.

Love & rgds
 

kai

ragamuffin
Hey guys comeon peaceful protest works!! I mean it worked for the Indians they can do it too!

or--the Tibetans could start firing rockets into China, Blowing up western airliners or Murdering Chinese citizens. No! im up for the peaceful protest.

China will implode one day in the not so distant future. Its wealth built on mass cheap labour when the Chinese awake they will want change.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Hey guys comeon peaceful protest works!! I mean it worked for the Indians they can do it too!

It does when the majority of populations remain rather apathetic to their plight. Their is no group or anyway I know of channeling money or effort to this particular group of people.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Keep dreaming...

Unfortunately, China has everyone in their hands at the moment (well, almost everyone) and their oligarchy is very, very powerful. It will take extreme internal pressure from the Chinese to do anything, next to all out war, which would be a far more terrible thing.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
Unless Nepal and Bhutan are swimming in iron ore, oil, copper and water I doubt China's interest in those nations is very high.

More concerning is that continuing development in the Western provinces and any interest China might show in Central Asia, especially Kazakhstan with it's larger concentration of oil and uranium.
 

Requia

Active Member
You're basing the future actions of China on something that happened 70 years ago?

What's your prediction for what happens after China invades Nepal, will the Russians invade Finland again? Maybe its time for France to take another shot at ruling all of Europe.
 

kai

ragamuffin
They've tried both meathods



Keep dreaming...

Well thats how it goes isnt it ? once the chineses people aspire to more and more freedoms and rights a higher standard of living along with modern state of the art personal possessions , once they realise what its like elsewhere thats when the wind of change starts to blow. The people will desire to have a better life they will look at the Japanese or Taiwanese standards of living, quality of life and personal freedoms, its a powerful driving force

This wealth and status the ruling elite are enjoying is temporary it always is. Its all very well for a government to be wealthy and project power when its all built on nothing more than virtually slave labour, its a foundation of shifting sand.
 
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Bismillah

Submit
once the chineses people aspire to more and more freedoms and rights a higher standard of living along with modern state of the art personal possessions , once they realise what its like elsewhere thats when the wind of change starts to blow. The people will desire to have a better life they will look at the Japanese or Taiwanese standards of living, quality of life and personal freedoms, its a powerful driving force
Why would the Chinese revolt against their government? It is through this government that they were lifted out of poverty and are currently exponentially growing. A revolution would set back the progress that has been made and only serve the interests of global counterweights like the U.S and India.

The Chinese people have historically been repressed and not much has changed for thousands of years. Now that their country is finally improving after years of imperial subjugation they would risk it all for the right to protest?

Besides, as seen in the recent Japanese Chinese fiasco, nationalism is still very high among the Chinese.
 

kai

ragamuffin
Why would the Chinese revolt against their government? It is through this government that they were lifted out of poverty and are currently exponentially growing. A revolution would set back the progress that has been made and only serve the interests of global counterweights like the U.S and India.

The Chinese people have historically been repressed and not much has changed for thousands of years. Now that their country is finally improving after years of imperial subjugation they would risk it all for the right to protest?

Besides, as seen in the recent Japanese Chinese fiasco, nationalism is still very high among the Chinese.

BNecause there are millions of chinese workers that are not being lifted out of poverty they are just working for a pittance.

The Chinese people have historically been repressed and not much has changed for thousands of years. Now that their country is finally improving after years of imperial subjugation they would risk it all for the right to protest?
Because that what people do they do risk it all for the right to protest their lot in life.
 

Bismillah

Submit
BNecause there are millions of chinese workers that are not being lifted out of poverty they are just working for a pittance.

And as China's industry grows these workers will earn a better living. It's an undeniable fact that living conditions in China are improving as the country's economy grows.

Because that what people do they do risk it all for the right to protest their lot in life.

So you expect that Chinese to protest their "lot in life" when it is finally improving? Doesn't seem very realistic to me. In fact, I don't see any violent groups trying to undermine the government like the Tamil Tiger in India because the populace seems generally proud and happy of their country's progress.

On the eve of the Chinese revolution, you expect them to throw it away?
 
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