Then be socially responsible and do your part in lowering the risk.Masks lower the risk not prevent from catching the virus.
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Then be socially responsible and do your part in lowering the risk.Masks lower the risk not prevent from catching the virus.
I don't see how that is a response to my post.
I've said he showed poor leadership.
Do you agree?
The problem I saw was shutting down too much, & not requiring
good safety practices, eg, separation, masks, contact tracing.
Then be socially responsible and do your part in lowering the risk.
I've lost track of the conversation anyway.What you wrote in this thread is what I responded to which to me was a totally to the point response to what you wrote in the thread.
If you want to bring in something other than your literal words, please do so.
To me you're not paying attention.We did not know how the virus spread. We did not know how long the virus lived on various surfaces. We did not know what a good separation is (and apparently 6 feet is not good enough). We did not have enough masks and still might not. We did not have and in many places still don't have enough people to contact trace.
To me you're criticizing a lack of omniscience and magical preplanning when it comes to the virus.
These all sound like the sort of policies that ill prepared state legislatures would come up with because of lack of federal leadership on a national issue.To me you're not paying attention.
I criticized......
- Illegal to buy paint, but OK to buy lottery tickets.
- Illegal to go to vacation home, but OK to go to state park.
- Illegal to go boating if it has a motor, but OK if it lacks one.
- OK to go into public places without mask or 6' separation.
One needn't be omniscient to see the inconsistency of
those policies.
Huh?They do. Why would you think they are not aside from the masks?Then be socially responsible and do your part in lowering the risk.
Yeah....our governor's dubious policies are Trump's fault.These all sound like the sort of policies that ill prepared state legislatures would come up with because of lack of federal leadership on a national issue.
One needn't be omniscient to see why the problem is Trump and his political ambitions getting in the way of national interests.
Tom
There are other studies and articles I have seen regarding these things. Some even discuss the circumstances in Denmark. All the studies I have seen say two things, 1) more study is needed (wow, right?) and that young children do not transmit it to others. I hesitate to cite volumes of references.I can understand your concern.
The trouble is that the article merely says children appear less "susceptible". It is not clear from that whether it means they don't become infected enough to spread it, or whether it means that when children do become infected, their symptoms are mild or non-existent. My understanding is that we are fairly sure the latter is true. However I have not so far read any evidence yet about the former.
So it may be perfectly possible for a class of apparently healthy children to carry the disease and be able to give it to each other, to teachers and to family members when they go home. One hopes of course that this is not so and that they don't even catch it, but if I were you I'd really want to know that bit of the equation before September! I think the Danes may have some experience of what happens when school restarts. It may be the younger classes are safer than the older ones. But we need to know, before blanket demands to restart physical schooling are imposed. I'm hoping the UK government may be able to share some information about this to reassure the UK teaching unions. If they don't, there could be teachers' strike in the Autumn, I should think.
Have you been talking with Governor Cuomo of New York? He sent infected aged patients back to their nursing homes instead of into a hospital. Then the virus spread to many of the others in the nursing home.That's good. Let it kill off all the old folks. We're not that valuable anyway.
We ought to start having classes in convalescent/old folks' homes.
Imagine all of the money it'll save the government.
Win/win.
Perhaps you should re-read what it said. There was no misrepresentation.Thanks, but what you claimed was ...
In other words, you misrepresented Dr. Raszka's statement. Why would you do such a thing?
Unless you think Michigan should have it's own epidemic task force, monitoring and planning for such a threat, then yes. I definitely do think that your governor's policies are Trump's fault.Yeah....our governor's dubious policies are Trump's fault.
This Daily Beast article is non-persuasive. It is an obvious opinion piece with a definite agenda.I question whether this is really known, since new
effects of this virus continue to pop up in research.
Israeli Data Show School Openings Were a Disaster That Wiped Out Lockdown Gains
OK then.....Unless you think Michigan should have it's own epidemic task force, monitoring and planning for such a threat, then yes. I definitely do think that your governor's policies are Trump's fault.
The likelihood of such a threat in the age of jet speed travel and global business was established. The federal government should have had some semblance of a national response.
Instead Trump blew it. He claimed it was a Democratic hoax. He claimed we already have treatments. He claimed we'd have the country open by Easter. Etc. Etc.
Yeah. I blame Trump for the mess, socially and medically and economically. He is the President and it was his job to deal with this.
Tom
My point was that there are questions on both sides.This Daily Beast article is non-persuasive. It is an obvious opinion piece with a definite agenda.
OK to go into public places without mask or 6' separation.
Yeah....our governor's dubious policies are Trump's fault.
Prove it or I dismiss it as a meaningless internet personal opinion.
Was there some point there? No one has said children can’t get Coronavirus. Your website link wasn’t even working when I tried to access it. We are talking about general conditions, not something that could be a local abnormality. I much prefer data from reliable sources, not some local bureaucrat with an agenda.Wrong. The data from my county shows school age children get it quite often:
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That's always been true, be it OH, MI, CA, or MD.You live in the wrong state.
Our leadership varies every 4 to 8 years.Countries with pro-active, science-oriented, thoughtful leadership are doing much better than we are. I wonder why.