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Chick-fil-A to be denied zoning permit in Chicago

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Apex, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. Father Heathen

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    And yet a portion of your money will still go into the pockets of political organizations that attempt to oppose and undermine freedom.
     
  2. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    So far, I haven't seen that Chic-fil-A is a threat to liberty.
    But if the goal is to change people, I've found that doing
    business with someone can be a very subversive thing.
    But one should do what suits one....a boycott is fine.
     
  3. Chisti

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    Don't they fund anti gay rights organizations?
     
  4. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    Even if they do, this would be legal.

    Dang! I know why you're doing this....you're trying to foment
    fervent back-&-forth just to build your post count. So obvious
    that you're shoot'n for 1,000.
     
  5. Wirey

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  6. Revoltingest

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  7. Revoltingest

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    ....too!
     
  8. MysticSang'ha

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    Pssst. You don't have to pad your post count, Rev. You're past 23,000. *points to upper right hand corner of Rev's post*

    See?
     
  9. Father Heathen

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    You don't see how making financial contributions to certain political movements could contribute to the corrosion of rights and freedoms?
     
  10. Revoltingest

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    Let's just say that I cannot foresee that it's so dangerous that we must curtail their liberty.
    That's how it works in a free country....everyone says something that someone else thinks
    will bring down western civilization, but everyone gets to say it anyway, & we persevere.
    I do business with people who hold opinions which I find reprehensible (to a libertarian),
    but I figger it serves the greater good to engage them in conversation. Tis an opportunity
    to change minds. You might worry if I am corrupted instead....well, worry not. I'm set in my ways.
    Besides....it's not like Chick-fil-A is doing anything as horribly wrong as trying to re-elect Obama.
    I'd have to up end me kilt at them!
     
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  11. CaptainXeroid

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    This is a foolish and naive position. Government's only role should be to equally enforce zoning and health code laws as enacted by the legislature to protect the public.

    Well...that is unless you are ok with government arbitrarily deciding who should and should be in business. If you adopt this philosophy then you are saying it's OK if the next government decides they don't want _______ type of business to exist, like Naragdaban said. And in case you were not aware, like Revoltingest said, governments change.

    All the stupidity coming from the anti-Chick-fil-A people is making me angry and hungry. I'm not really craving chicken, but I think I'll spend my $$ there just to thumb my nose at the bigots who hate Chick-fil-A. :yes:
     
  12. CaptainXeroid

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    I do this as well, but I've just about given up on changing minds. People on the extreme left and extreme right are too dogmatically stuck in their ways to actually pull their heads out of their....politics...:D and actually have an original thought.

    I pick businesses by who gives me the best value factoring in convenience and competence. I normally leave opinions out of the equation.
     
  13. Mestemia

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    So merely disagreement another persons opinion is enough to remove the rights from the person whose opinion you disagree with?
     
  14. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    Hey! I don't have any original thoughts.
    They've all been thought before by someone else.
    I just string them together.

    Same here. I only find out their beliefs once I get to know them.
     
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  15. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    I suffer from the heartbreak of post count dysmorphic disorder.
    It always looks smaller than it is.
     
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    Do bigots have rights?
     
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    Those who hate bigots are themselves bigots?
     
  18. Father Heathen

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    Everyone should have rights as long as they're not denying others theirs.
     
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    If this is really true, do you consider yourself a moral person?

    Our choices as consumers (and as business people, and in every other facet of our lives) have moral implications. Ignoring those implications means behaving negligently toward morality, which is itself immoral, IMO.

    Now... I'm not saying that anyone who supports Chick-fil-A is necessarily immoral. Maybe you can see a way to justify supporting them - I can't - but pretending that your decision, whatever it is, doesn't have moral consequences and isn't an expression of your personal values is sticking your head in the sand.

    Money spent at Chick-fil-A *will* go toward hurting and oppressing gay people. If you think that doing this to gay people is wrong, and you still buy from Chick-fil-A, then you are supporting things you claim to oppose, and this is something you'll have to reconcile.

    Giving money to someone, whether it's a lobbying organization, a church, or a business, is tacit endorsement of what they do. Ignoring this doesn't mean you're in the clear morally.
     
  20. Revoltingest

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    Supporting Chick-fil-A could also be seen as a way of opposing illegal suppression of free speech by government (Chicago).
     
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