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Discussion in 'Theological Concepts' started by Tmac, Sep 11, 2017.

  1. Tmac

    Tmac Active Member

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    Why do we resist change? I can understand why those that are comfortable and most of the people who run things would resist but the people who beg for change, resist it as well. Scientist, have determined that life, itself, is in a state flux and yet each day we wake up, we look for things to be as they were when we closed our eyes. Why are we afraid, things that stand still, begin to decay.

    Sometime we mistakenly take something as the truth. If we cling to it so much, even when the truth comes in persod knocks on your door, you will not open it. (RW)
     
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    This is the Theological Concepts forum, not Philosophical Waxings.
     
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    We humans survive and thrive by our ability to understand and control the world around us to our own advantage. So we are made vulnerable by the 'unknown', and we feel vulnerable when confronted with it. Yet we crave new information, as well, for the same reason. So we find ourselves in a bit of a paradox, in that we want to learn and experience new things because knowledge is power, and security. Yet we fear the unknown when we encounter it because it makes us vulnerable.

    And I suppose it's a necessary paradox because it sets up a kind of balance within us, that keeps us from being too inquisitive, and too experimental with life, while at the same time it keeping us sufficiently curious. It's natural that we would feel the conflicting reactions to change: trepidation and inquisitiveness. It's the result of the nature of the human condition.
     
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    I feel that change is the only truth. So no need to cling to any of it.
     
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    Humans tend to resit any change that they perceive (on one level or another) as threatening to the self. And since we self-identify with so many things, that can become quite ossifying.
     
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    The structure of the ego resists change and wants to keep things as they are to experience illusory stability. So it's true that when Truth, God, comes "knocking", the ego resists the light because to experience the light the ego must go.
     
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    Everything we experience within our individual mind changes from one moment to the next according to the program we're involved in. Those who do not understand how we're created will remain confused until the next generation of the program.
     
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    Very true. When stagnation is allowed life is no longer present and these 'things' might as well be in a museum collecting dust.
     
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    I think two of the most curious things about resistance to change are (1) humans will sometimes lay down their lives rather than accept a change that threatens their self-identity (i.e. ego), and (2) humans tend to oppose change to their self-identities by convincing themselves that they have certain and assured knowledge of things they do not have any such knowledge of -- such as the "infallibility of the Pope", either the existence or non-existence of god, an "objective" morality, the "racial superiority of the Aryan race", a particular worldview, or something else they self-identify with.
     
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    We humans survive and thrive by our ability to understand and control the world around us to our own advantage. I agree that this is the rule of thumb but doesn't it kind of sound like us against the ... Everything is war, kill, sanitize. And each day we get closer forever altering existence. I think a new paradigm is in order.
     
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    No disrespect but I'm going to put you down as one who doesn't want change, are you one of the comfortable one or do you run things?
     
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    I find it interesting that on some of the above posts, the word human was use as if it was referring to some one else besides the writer. We are humans, we are talking about ourselves. Own it. We are the ones doing what you write about, now if you believe we are hard wired then, as they sat in the play ground lets get down, but we are malleable and change has to come from within.
     
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    You forget to put down exotic dancing girls? ;) A wink is as good as nod. and vice verses.
     
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    Yes, I was referring to the human animal. But humans is a kind of 'hybrid' in that our conscious self is equal in power and strength to our biological self. Such that we tend to be locked in an ongoing struggle to 'transcend' our animal selves to become fully 'human'.
     
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    I think transcend is the key word here, Freud believed that a perfect blend of ego, super ego and id is a well adjusted individual, I would think a fully evolved human embraces its physical self, its emotional self, its intellectual self and its spiritual self in a perfect blend that make each of us unique. It is interesting though, that we struggle to become ourselves, it must be because of all the interference we get (in the form of instruction).
     
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    Lots of interference.

    We need to learn how to get everyone's animal (physical) needs met, first, I think. So that we can then begin to explore or human (metaphysical) potential. Unfortunately, as animals we tend to compete (behave as individuals against our own collective), rather than cooperate (behave as a collective of individuals). And this has been our primary stumbling block probably for all our time on Earth.
     
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    Say what you will, I will NOT change to iPhone 8, my old trusty iPhone 5 is working great, thank you. :p
     
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    Yes, we tend to listen with a little more focus when we don't have to worry about food and shelter.
    Behavior is learned and can either be unlearned or learn a behavior that is more satisfying, there are benefits in altruism that don't require sacrifice. But somebody has to model it and make it attractive so it catches on.
     
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    Even if you resist change it's going to sneak up on you anyways. ;0)
     
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    It doesn't appear to be that we don't know how to do this, it appears the we don't have the will to do it. And so far, no one seems to have come up with a way to inspire that will. Education is certainly a part of it, but we can't teach our children what we won't first learn, ourselves. That is the practical value of empathy, unity, and cooperation. Immediate gratification just keeps blocking it out.

    And no one seems to know how to get past this.
     
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