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CBS lied abouT Rittenhouse crossing state line armed...

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by SA Huguenot, Nov 23, 2021.

  1. SA Huguenot

    SA Huguenot Well-Known Member

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    I always go through the morning news, and cant understand why it is so difficuilt to find the latest information on CNN, MSNBC ABC and CBS for instance...

    Fox news posted an article informing that CBS retracted their claim that Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illigal weapon to go into conflict in Kenosha.
    CBS' 'Face the Nation' corrects claim Rittenhouse crossed state lines while armed: 'Oversight in language'
    I also saw a lot of leftist supporters on this website claiming the exact same.
    I wanted to get the article from another source, but it seems as if I cant get to the source. Perhaps it is due to the region I live in.

    However, I see that Fox are making this claim, but everyone else is silent about this important fact.

    All the leftist media anchors used this lie as a fact to get an inocent man convicted as a criminal even before he went to court.

    I also see that Biden refuses to apologise to Rittenhouse.

    Perhaps CBS realises that they will face dire consequences for their actions, just like CNN had to pay millions out to Niocloas Sandman for slandering him.

    Man... this is going to be the next best soap opera when these liars will have to face accountability, and dish out millions to Rittenhouse for their lies.

    I would like to see Joe Behar loose a few million whih her big lying mouth!
     
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    I highly doubt a single one of these people are leftist considering who they support (of politicians). Except for the glorious Dr. Cornel West who appears on these places from time to time. "Brother Anderson..." It never gets old.
     
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    Yawn. I can match many right wing lies to one of the left. But MSNBC is as far left as Fox is right so that does not mean much if anything at least to me. And CNN does skew a bit left in news reporting but is heav on analysis and opinion

    I stick to the middle/top of the news pyramid and wish others did also.

    And I'm sure from the far right perspective a neutral outlet seems far left - it's a matter of perspective.
     
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    My understanding is that it was after the shootings that he crossed state lines with a weapon, as he was unable to turn himself in in Kenosha.
    Though, to be fair, in what I heard it was unclear if the weapon was still with him when he left Kenosha.

    Certainly there is an issue with modern day journalism and fact-checking. Most news services are so quick to try and get 'news' out for consumption they are using social media or each other as sources. So a single fact-checking error results in the same story being reported on multiple news services.
     
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    Although...we have a footage.
    In that footage we see that after the shootings he went towards the police cars. He tried to open the car doors...but the police officers would not let him in.
    So he did want to turn himself in immediately... still wearing the rifle.
    It is all on video. All documented.
     
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  6. SA Huguenot

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    And, I find it funny how it is always the left media outlets who are continiously copying and pasting erroneous fact checking "facts".

    Sometimes I find they are as parrots repeating the same lie.
    I once saw no less than 4 outlets saying the exact same thing, which was a total lie, and not one fact checked the sources.

    I dont think it is by accident, it occurs too frequent.
    It is definately deliberately done to indoctrobate people to believe what they set as an agenda, to be believed due to repetition.

    This is the sole reason why I found Fox to be a thousand times more reliable than the rest.

    They did not further the Russia collusion lie, the Russian bounty against American soldier's lie, the Trump supports White supremacist lies, the Sandman lie, the Quid Pro Quo lie, the Border crisis lie, the Trump tax lie, the Cavanaugh sex scandall lie, the Joe Biden Quid pro Quo lie, the Hunter Ucrane lie, and Russia paid Hunter lie, and China paid Biden lie, the Rittenhouse lie, just as a few examples...

    Therefore, when I watched Carlson, Ingram, Hanity, Guttfelt, I normally found a balanced truth versus, Whoopy Goldberg, Joy Behar, Lemon, Acosta, Cumo, Anderson, Maddock and the rest.

    I am over and again amaized at the real deliberate Leftist Democrat agenda these guys pump out again and again without stopping.
    The above is the sole reason why I like Fox. And dont like the leftist propaganda machine, because I have the intelligence to realise that I am lied to.
    You can only fool me once.

    I think people watching the "Fake News" outlets are like someone who is owened a lot of money.
    They eventually accept all the pormises, from the person lying about when they will get paid, because they hope it will happen.

    Leftists hoped the Leftist media were telling the Truth about Trump and colluding with Russia, not because they knew any facts, but they hoped it was true!

    Just as they all hoped the lies about Rittenhouse was true, not because it was true, but they needed an escapegoat against civilised conservatism.

    The propaganda machine at its best.
     
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  7. SA Huguenot

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    I can not understand why anyone would claim Fox is "Far right".
    To me they are not!
    They are simply Conservative.
    if you perceive Fox as "Far Right", your point of view must be "Ultra far Left"!
     
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    There is indisputable photographic evidence of Kyle Rittenhouse flashing either a white power sign or a friendly O.K. gesture to known Proud Boy members. According to the Anti Defamation league, the Proud Boys have many racist or white supremacist members. Since Kyle Rittenhouse has associated himself with members belonging to a rightwing militia group consisting of many white supremacists, Kyle Rittenhouse is justifiably suspected of being racist. Right?

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. lewisnotmiller

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    Umm...that doesn't contradict anything I said, though...??

    After that, he left Kenosha, and crossed state lines before turning himself in. I think he had the gun when he did that, but I'm actually not sure.
    And in many ways, don't see it as important.
     
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    Whilst there's some truth in that, some people perceive mainstream Democrats to be "Far Left". Can you believe it???!!!???
     
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    I don't find that accurate at all. But there are more mainstream left leaning News services, so perhaps that's where the perception comes from.

    It is a little problematic now. Back in the day, current news was upto 24 hours old. Whilst time could be an issue, it wasn't 'real time'. And professional News services competed with each other...not also amateurs, streaming services, camera footage from bystanders, etc.

    And here we part ways. Even a charitable viewing of Rupert Murdoch and his modus operandi would suggest that Fox (and Sky News here in Oz) work to very clear and structured messaging for the most part. Murdoch is no amateur, and he's not silly enough to try and control all messaging from his News services. But you better believe that certain messages are very carefully managed and delivered.

    You can see it as 'evil' or you can see it as 'professional', or anything in between. But balanced truth? Yeah, nup.

    Incidentally, I'm not defending some of those more progressive names you mentioned. It requires some care to find relatively evenhanded news. And even then, I find myself having to validate a lot these days.

    Meh...by American...and probably your standards, I lean left I would think. At least in terms of social issues.

    But I wouldn't rely on 'left biased' news, apart from as a conversation starter to prompt me to research an issue. I'm even more of a mind to treat Sky News that way because their key commentators have long histories of presenting information in a skewed fashion, but maintaining enough plausible deniability to protect themselves (in the eyes of their audience). Their messaging is much more coherent and controlled than left sources, I find. But whatever...I'd prefer to rely on sources like The Conversation, Michael West Media, SBS, The Hill, The Australian...

    Do these sources have biases? Yup. All sources do. But they're generally good quality, and cover a range of interest areas pretty well.

    Of course, I watch lower quality news and entertainment programs, mostly for the entertainment value. And, again, these can be great prompts to get me interested in an issue, and doing some research. I just don't rely on those sources for 'The Truth'.
     
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    I do see some weird intersection of the court case, and general assessment of his character (in grandly positive or negative terms). I don't mean by you, specifically. Just in many of these conversations.

    They're separate issues. His guilt, or not is completely divorced from his general character in a legal sense (unless it was directly tied to why he was there...for example as part of an organised and violent counter protest).

    He can be a flog of a bloke, but not guilty of murder. And Wisconsin law has its own idiosyncrasies which factor in.

    Still strikes me as bizarre that it seems law enforcement officials and/or local business owners thought a 17 year old with a gun might be useful rather than problematic in this situation.

    Same dude can neither gamble, nor order a beer, nor vote.

    Baffles me.
     
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    Ooh...sorry, I did have on more point on this.
    Fox as a whole is one thing. Particular shows and presenters on Fox is another. There are a range of positions and extremities on the channel as a whole.

    How I'd describe Fox (or Sky here) depends on the particular show were talking about.
     
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    Look at all the leftists who wailed from the top of the rooftops about crossing state lines including legal citations without ever considering to double check the propaganda emitted from their echo chambers.

    The very thing they accused the right of doing!

    The hypocrisy that has been displayed is absolutely astounding.
     
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    Do you understand how the fact that he didn't cross state lines with his weapon is actually worse in a lot of ways?

    You're complaining about "leftist" news outlets giving Rittenhouse the benefit of the doubt that he:

    - bought his gun legally, and
    - was keeping it under proper control, ensuring its proper safe storage, etc.

    Instead, we've found out that Rittenhouse:

    - bought the gun using his friend as a "straw purchaser",
    - did this because he was too young to buy the gun legally in the state where he bought it, and
    - left his gun with a buddy (the straw purchaser) rather than keep it under his own control.

    This isn't the win that you think it is.
     
  16. SA Huguenot

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    What does "Suspected" mean?

    Suspected that the OK sign Spiderman showed to the Busdriver is the same as Kyle's sign?
    Therefore I think Kyle Rittenhouse is a likely "Suspect" of being Spiderman!

    Plkease dont go painting pictures about something that does not exist.

    I have a picture where I posed with Beki Thlele, minister of Police from the Communist ANC!
    does this mean I am a communist, and ANC, or that I have a picture of someone I just dont like which I show to my friends for laughs?

    Rittenhouse's political thinking has nothing to do with the fact that he fought for his life against "Far left" criminals who tried to kill him!
    And it is the Far Left who would go out to call Blake's shooting, and incident of police brutality, when it was Blake who pushed the police to shoot him.
    It is the far left that looted, arsoned, and threatened peoples propperty and lives.

    You should feel ashamed to think a picture of Rittenhouse, even with Adolf Hitler, would mean he is a murderer whilst not a word is said about the murdering Antifa hooligans.
     
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    Why would you expect someone else to mention the fantasy villians that reside in your head?
     
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  18. SA Huguenot

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    So what are you implying?
    Rittenhouse did not get the rifle from Blake?
    It was purchased from a sporting shop by Rittenhouse?
    Without checking his ID?

    Oh, I forgot, that will be racist!
     
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    I wouldn't worry too much over this sniveling little brat, Alan Dershowitz, has offered to bring lawsuit on his behalf. You can't get more left than that.
     
  20. SA Huguenot

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    OK, lets go back to what you are telling me.
    It is a very simple methot to determine who, between the two of us, has a villain in his head.

    Do you say Rittenhouse is a murderer because there is a picture of him with a Proud Boy supporter?
     
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