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Featured Catholic Abuse Scandal was Primarily Homosexual

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  1. KW

    KW Well-Known Member

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    The National Review Board, recruiting a research team from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, released its initial report in 2004. The results were conclusive: This was not a "pedophile" scandal, but a homosexual scandal. Eighty percent of the alleged victims were male, and nearly 90 percent were post-pubescent, with "only a small percentage of priests receiving allegations of abusing young children."

    I addition, almost all the abuse happened 20 years ago or more.

    The Church has taken action to block actively gay men from becoming priests and instituted other safety measures which have virtually ended instances of abuse.
     
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    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    The church faces a fundamental problem with its
    requirement that clergy be celibate. This goes strongly
    against what it is to be human. So recruits are not
    going to be sexually normal in accepting & living
    that life.
    Add to this the church's secretive hierarchical structure,
    & it's a continuing recipe for abuse of children. The
    church says it's investigated itself, & fixed the problem.
    Yeah....right.
     
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  3. KW

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    It has nothing to do with celibacy. That's another lie spread by enemies of the Church.

    The Catholic Church has virtually eliminated abuse. In the past 20 years there is no safer organization in the world. 1.3 billion people and almost no abuse.

    No other organization is close to as safe as the Catholic Church today.

    60 million US Catholics ( note that these 22 cases are just allegations, so we don't know how many actual cases occurred)

    The report concerns an audit year that runs from July 1, 2019 through June 30, 2020.
    Suzanne Healey, chair of the National Review Board, said the audit identified 22 allegations of abuse occurring recently. In each case civil authorities were also notified of the allegation so that local law enforcement could address the problems as needed.
     
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    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    Must it be a lie rather than a disagreement?
    It's ironic that for centuries it's been the clergy & church
    who've been lying about raping children, & then blaming
    the children. So accusations of dishonesty ring hollow.
    The church says it's eliminated abuse.
    Yet the fundamental problems remain.
    This warrants skepticism.
     
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    Yes, it is a lie.

    What structural problems are you talking about?
     
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    I've nothing to add.
    May others weigh in.
     
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    Aštra’el Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth

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    Among the extremely small percentage of Catholic priests who ever engaged in the sexual abuse of another human being… why is it they are almost exclusively homosexual?
     
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    Well since the report you refer to was published in 2004, i.e. 18 years ago, it's hardly surprising the events it relates to took place more than 20 years ago. Is there really no more recent report than this?

    It would be useful to know how many of the victims were over 18 years old and how many were minors. Does the report contain this information?
     
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    The report concerns an audit year that runs from July 1, 2019 through June 30, 2020.
    Suzanne Healey, chair of the National Review Board, said the audit identified 22 allegations of abuse occurring recently. In each case civil authorities were also notified of the allegation so that local law enforcement could address the problems as needed.
     
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    Because the priesthood is restricted to celibate males, of course. The prospect of an all-male environment for the whole of your life is more offputting to heterosexual men than to those with homosexual inclinations. (And then there's all the dressing up, of course.:D)
     
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    So what was the reference to 2004 then? And have you a link to the report you are referencing that works? (I tried the link in the OP and it was "empty".)

    And how many of these 22 abuse cases involved minors?
     
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    I wonder if young Catholic men wrestling with homosexual
    feelings see the priesthood as a way of coping with their
    orientation...one which must be denied. By swearing off
    sex, perhaps they imagine a way of resisting temptation,
    purging their sinful desires, & practicing penance.
    But many later discover their feelings are not so easily
    denied, & become expressed in heinous ways because
    normal relationships are impossible. Children are vulnerable,
    offering the secrecy that adults wouldn't.
     
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    It's an environment remarkably similar to prison,
    wherein even hetero males have homo sex.
     
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    That makes sense. I think that that these men could also be manipuated with those with other agendas.
     
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    Most of these abuse cases occurred decades before. The 2004 report covered these decades.

    That's where the statistics about the homosexual nature of most cases was uncovered.

    In recent years there has been very little abuse.
     
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    Can you reply to my questions, please, or provide a link to whatever it is you are referencing, so we can see for ourselves?
     
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    Do you have another source? Twice your link failed to download.
     
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    From this article:

    The National Review Board, recruiting a research team from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, released its initial report in 2004. The results were conclusive: This was not a "pedophile" scandal, but a homosexual scandal. Eighty percent of the alleged victims were male, and nearly 90 percent were post-pubescent, with "only a small percentage of priests receiving allegations of abusing young children." An updated report, issued in 2011, revealed similar numbers: 81 percent of sex abuse victims were boys, and 78 percent were post-pubescent.

    Priest Sex Abuse Is All About Homosexuality (churchmilitant.com)
     
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    Now I see. :rolleyes: Clearly a homophobic slant. Nice try.
     
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    Which fact do you dispute?
     
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