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Caning a woman who broke the law

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bishka, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. Bishka

    Bishka Veteran Member

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    dawny0826 Mother Heathen

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    Reminds me why I love the States. Where's the boyfriend? Unpunished?
     
  3. Bishka

    Bishka Veteran Member

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    Probably, that's what usually happens.
     
  4. CaptainXeroid

    CaptainXeroid Following Christ

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    I concur! Not only is it disturbing that there is ANY penalty for a living arrangement that is no one else's business, but the public beating and disparate treatment for the woman and her boyfriend is unjust.:mad:
     
  5. Engyo

    Engyo Prince of Dorkness!

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    Becky -

    There is at least one woman in the front row (pink headscarf), and possibly another behind her (white scarf w/black or blue band). I think there are some more women with black headscarves, but they are harder to pick out.

    I do think the boyfriend ought to be kneeling right next to her, getting the same number of strokes she does, but I don't believe that Shariah law treats men and women equally in these kinds of cases. If I am wrong, then where is the boyfriend?
     
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  6. michel

    michel Administrator Emeritus
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    I agree, but we have to turn away from this, as dishonest as it makes me feel. This is a Faith of which we cannot afford to be judgemental.

    Broken glass, bare feet..........:(
     
  7. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    I sincerely hope that you do not mean this!
     
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    CaptainXeroid Following Christ

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    Respectfully, I disagree. I'm not advocating we use any kind of 'force' to change their minds, but I see nothing wrong with speaking out against that which I believe to be inherently unfair.
     
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    If it was a female friend of mine getting thumped with a cane....
     
  10. YmirGF

    YmirGF Bodhisattva

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    I don't know how people can be against such an enlightened manner of dealing with such an terribly serious issue.
    </sarcasm>

    I forced myself to sit through a video of a stoning before Christmas. It was certainly an eye-opener. Stoning is probably the most brutal form of execution I can imagine. It is all the more brutal considering the crowd was almost in a religious froth. I simply could not get the words of Jesus out of my head. "He who is without sin, cast the first stone." Frankly, I had no idea there were so many on our planet who were "without sin".
     
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    Wouldn't that be like judging Christianity by the Inquisition or Calvin's Geneva?
     
  12. Smoke

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    Do you? I think the opposite -- that nobody should ever be caned for violating some arbitrary religious taboo.
     
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    Smoke Done here.

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    I remember seeing a video of a Tonton Macoute being stoned in Haiti when the Duvalier regime fell. It was really horrible, no matter how brutal the Tonton Macoutes were. It still makes me a little sick to think about it.
     
  14. Engyo

    Engyo Prince of Dorkness!

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    Alright, from an absolute point of view I certainly agree with you. I guess to rephrase my original statement I should have said:
    "If Sharia law must punish this "crime" by caning, then I do think the boyfriend ought to be kneeling right next to her, getting the same number of strokes she does, but I don't believe that Shariah law treats men and women equally in these kinds of cases."

    Hopefully that will clarify the sentiment I was trying to express.
     
  15. Jayhawker Soule

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    Sadly, this is from the Pericope de Adultera (John 7:53 - 8:11) about which we are told:
    This entire section, 7:53-8:11, traditionally known as the pericope adulterae, is not contained in the earliest and best mss and was almost certainly not an original part of the Gospel of John. Among modern commentators and textual critics, it is a foregone conclusion that the section is not original but represents a later addition to the text of the Gospel. B. M. Metzger summarizes: “the evidence for the non-Johannine origin of the pericope of the adulteress is overwhelming”. [ bible.org ]​
    None of this, of course, justifies the barbarism depicted in the picture.
     
  16. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    How would you judge Christianity and the Christian world at that time?
     
  17. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

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    Sometimes you must break eggs to make omelets.
    This is an example.

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  18. angellous_evangellous

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    It is not sad at all that the Johanine school remembered Jesus in this way.
     
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    Very interesting material. Thank you Jayhawker.
     
  20. Jayhawker Soule

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    “the evidence for the non-Johannine origin of the pericope of the adulteress is overwhelming” [ibid]
     
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