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Canadian Healthcare. Is It Really Better Than The United States?

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
If I wish to be generous and pay out of my pocket for their services to put out my neighbor's fire because of my neighbor's negligence, then it's my choice to do so.
And it is also your choice to answer my question, or not. But I will ask you again. What would you do? Would you choose to instruct your contractor to put out the fire on your neighbour's house?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
And it is also your choice to answer my question, or not. But I will ask you again. What would you do? Would you choose to instruct your contractor to put out the fire on your neighbour's house?
From what I gather thus far, it appears to be a mood thingy.
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
And it is also your choice to answer my question, or not. But I will ask you again. What would you do? Would you choose to instruct your contractor to put out the fire on your neighbour's house?
If I'm on good terms with my neighbor, sure I probably would.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
No, why should I?
Because your house is in danger if your neighbour's house is on fire. To allow the fire on your neighbour's house to burn is foolish. I am trying to get you to see that putting out the fire on your neighbour's house is in your own enlightened self-interest. The fire, if it is allowed to burn, will spread. Don't you see this?

If your neighbour is walking around with an infectious disease, it is in your enlightened self-interest to have your neighbour cured, for your own protection. Don't you see this?
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
Because your house is in danger if your neighbour's house is on fire. To allow the fire on your neighbour's house to burn is foolish. I am trying to get you to see that putting out the fire on your neighbour's house is in your own enlightened self-interest. The fire, if it is allowed to burn, will spread. Don't you see this?

If your neighbour is walking around with an infectious disease, it is in your enlightened self-interest to have your neighbour cured, for your own protection. Don't you see this?
No. If he infects me or otherwise measurably harms me, then there is ground for a lawsuit - after the fact. Otherwise, I cannot trespass against his personal sovereignty.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
No. If he infects me or otherwise measurably harms me, then there is ground for a lawsuit - after the fact. Otherwise, I cannot trespass against his personal sovereignty.
You can sue him, but you might be dead, or otherwise permanently harmed. Your house may be gone, you or your family could be killed in the fire.

I am astonished by your foolishness.
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
You can sue him, but you might be dead, or otherwise permanently harmed. Your house may be gone, you or your family could be killed in the fire.

I astonished by your foolishness.
Why should I be, if I protect myself by engaging the services of a fire fighting contractor?
 
If my house is in danger, I'll call my fire fighting contractor.

Having fragmented, for profit, private emergency services seriously reduces the quality of service, capacity, response time, specialist equipment available, etc.

Firefighters also deal with road traffic accidents and the like, if someone was uninsured should their family just be left trapped inside a mangled vehicle because the breadwinner decided they didn't want to pay for cover?

Some things just work better when they are provided as public services and fulfill basic standards of common decency expected in a civilised society.

Also families being left homeless costs the taxpayer a lot more money than putting out a fire, unless they are left to sleep on the streets.

The fire service probably costs you less than $40 a year. Are you really that tight fisted that it causes you anguish to be 'robbed' by 'freeloaders' for such an amount? I would pay $40 just to not have to do the paperwork for a private contractor. My time is worth more than that.
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
I must say I am incredibly glad that your position is extremely rare to come by. It sounds as something that came from a novel's character.
It's called libertarianism. We believe in freedom for all, and likewise the assumption of full personal responsibility. We do not advocate "prevention", because everyone has their own ideas about "prevention".
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
Having fragmented, for profit, private emergency services seriously reduces the quality of service, capacity, response time, specialist equipment available, etc.

Firefighters also deal with road traffic accidents and the like, if someone was uninsured should their family just be left trapped inside a mangled vehicle because the breadwinner decided they didn't want to pay for cover?

Some things just work better when they are provided as public services and fulfill basic standards of common decency expected in a civilised society.

Also families being left homeless costs the taxpayer a lot more money than putting out a fire, unless they are left to sleep on the streets.

The fire service probably costs you less than $40 a year. Are you really that tight fisted that it causes you anguish to be 'robbed' by 'freeloaders' for such an amount?
No, I'm all for complete freedom of choice and conscience. It's not about being miserly.

What do you have against freedom?
 
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