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Canada pays 8 million dollars to terrorist!
- Thread starter Bob Jones
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Shad
Veteran Member
It is an arbitrary age, nothing more.Think about it. If someone is fighting a multi-day battle which happens to land on a birthday suddenly they are an adult solider. Nothing actually changed. They didn't become more intelligent, competent, etc just because they are suddenly 18.
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Shad
Veteran Member
No it was because of how that information was gained via torture done under the US government. Interviews between Ahmed and Canadian rep were done within the time frame of his torture. One was conducted after a sleep deprivation process. That was the violation of international and Canadian law not sharing information itself. If the information was gained legally Canada could provide whatever it wanted or not to the US.
The Convention on the Rights of the Child uses 18.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
He gave up his "children" status the second he pulled the pin on that grenade...
No, they couldn't. Not without a Constitutional amendment.
And you must have tremendous trust in our government if you want to give it the power to pass retroactive laws.
Edit: and if you want a law that makes the government unaccountable for violating citizens' rights.
Why do you say that? Do you think children have the same capacity to think things through or to determine right and wrong that adults have? Do you think children should be held to the same legal standards as adults?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
I think it's foolish to believe that any soldier should not protect themselves from any one of any age trying to kill them.
Bob Jones
Prove It!
It would be a civil law, not an expost facto law
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Seriously???
You still must have tremendous trust in your government to want them to be able to wash their hands of responsibility for violating citizens' rights retroactively.
That's not the issue. American soldiers shot him twice after he threw the grenade, and it sure seems they were justified in doing that.
(Though it's worth pointing out that some witness statements from the American soldiers identified a different person as having thrown the grenade)
The issue is his treatment once he was taken into custody.
Bob Jones
Prove It!
Trudeau settled this case. He should of tried the case before a jury. To add insult to injury, the Trudeau government attempted to keep a low profile of payment, not even members of parliament where aware of this matter.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Well, that's convenient. The only thing the soldiers did wrong was not shooting him three times....
Most cases get settled before trial. It can be a good tactic to reduce costs and reduce the risk of an even larger award at trial.
As someone who trusts the government enough to let them revoke citizenship of natural-born Canadians and to want them to be able to pass retroactive laws, I would have thought you would have complete confidence in the government lawyers' judgement on this issue.
What percentage of settlements paid out by the government do you think are reported in Parliament?
There was also the torture, illegal detention, and unconstitutional trials. Those were wrong, too... but details, right?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Shad
Veteran Member
No it can't. That too is illegal as per paragraph 11g of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. If it did the government it would be an open display of tyranny.