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Canada pays 8 million dollars to terrorist!

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Bob Jones, Sep 16, 2019.

  1. Bob Jones

    Bob Jones Prove It!

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    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau gave Omar Khadr a big payout, but the terrorist’s real victims may never see any of that money.

    Canada agreed to pay the former Guantanamo prisoner a reported $8 million in a lawsuit alleging civil rights violations. The settlement included an apology.


    The Canadian-born Khadr was 15 in 2002 when he tossed a grenade in a firefight that killed U.S. Army Sgt. 1st Class Christopher Speer, a special forces medic. Fox News

    This payout was also done very quietly in order to frustrate the heirs to the estate of the American Army Officer.
    SO terrorist gets 8 million and murder victim zero! From our northern best friend..Canada!
     
  2. Valjean

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    What was the American Sgt doing in Afghanistan? Was he there doing social work, or was he there to kill and destroy? Who were the bad guys?
    If the table were turned and America had been invaded, what would our attitude toward the resistance be?
     
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  3. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    I guess we could ask what a Canadian citizen was doing there as well...
     
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    Some context:

    1 - This judgement was a result of a breach of his civil rights. Rather than blame the government for giving a terrorist money, maybe blame the way he was treated by the government following his capture and detainment while he was still a minor which made the payment necessary.
    SOURCE: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cabinet-explain-omar-khadr-settlement-1.4194467

    2 - The family of the deceased soldier (and a second soldier who was blinded) have been awarded a $134 million dollars settlement against Khadr as a result of default judgement, although this has yet to be paid.
    SOURCE: U.S. judge awards $134-million in suit against Omar Khadr

    3 - This case is two years old, and really not much worth bringing up now.
     
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  5. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    When did defending yourself against an invading military force become terrorism, anyway?
    Tom
     
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  6. Stanyon

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    A minor... With a grenade and intent to kill
    Maybe in your world little children are just innocent little sacks of love, to many veterans now and past children and minors were/are just as capable of killing as an adult.
     
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    In a country being invaded by a foreign superpower he attacked the military with weapons like their own.

    How does that fit any definition of "terrorist", other than "I don't like him so I'll call him a terrorist, because that gives me carte blanche here in the Christian world."
    Tom
     
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    Next time the "veterans" shouldn't enlist their help in an unnecessary and abusive invasion if they don't want to face resistance. This may burst your bubble, but the U.S. Army invaders generally aren't the heroes or victims you seem to believe they are.
     
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  9. ImmortalFlame

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    When did I ever imply he was "just an innocent little sack of love"?

    Maybe read the broader context of what I have written in full before responding in future.
     
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    The Taliban was in control and were the main ones thought to be behind the attacks on 9/11, they used to be the mujahideen (which we trained) to fight against the Russians in yet another not so cold war conflict. Of course then they were "freedom fighters".

    Not sure how you included religion in this
     
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    In your opinion it wasn't necessary and I can guarantee you that soldiers going into a conflict zone are well aware they are going to face resistance, it's the reality and end result of all the training they do to prepare them for that very job.
     
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    Canada wasn't invaded.
     
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    There is no broader context, a Canadian citizen went to fight in a war, his own countrymen were fighting in it and he chose to be an enemy. He never should have made it out alive IMO.
     
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    Pretty much this. The government rolled over for the US.
     
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    Think of it this way. If Russia arrested you, put on a show trial and found you guilty wouldn't you expect the US to try to defend you as a citizen? This is what happened here even if the kid killed people. The Canadian government accepted whatever the US told them without issue or investigation.
     
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    Well, it's good to know you believe in killing children rather than granting them their human rights.
     
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    Omar Khadr was treated illegally and immorally by the Canadian state.

    The government paid him off because his legal case had merit and he could have won.

    Giving Trudeau credit for "giving him" the payout and an apology is very slanted and false presentation.
    If it were true: it would redeem Trudeau. Not damn him.

    However it is false and Trudeau is a shark like his father.
     
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    Actually his family left Canada years before the war. He didn't just pack up his bags to go join some foreign war at the drop of a hat. Also his father was involved with terrorists for years before the war and during the war hence why Ahmed was found in an insurgent village. His father was killed in combat against US forces fighting for AQ. The family attachment to Canada is next to zero. Canada failed him. Ahmed is using his citizenship to his advantage but still is within his rights. When give a choice between a 3rd world hell hole and Canada few will pick the hell hole.
     
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    They cease to be a child when they actively become the enemy. One of the problems some western veterans face after being in conflict zones where children are active combatants is the crisis of conscience many feel if they have to kill a child soldier, it's not a choice other than kill or be killed or one of your squad mates getting injured or killed. While little Billy is back home in the west playing soldier and shooting plastic guns little so and so in another part of the world is doing it for real.
     
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    You seem to not understand biology very well.

    Which is all irrelevant.

    Do you or do you not understand how human rights work?
     
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