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"Canada Bans Assault Weapons; People 'Deserve More Than Thoughts and Prayers' ”

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Skwim, May 1, 2020.

  1. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Well, I don't take you too seriously, to be honest.
     
  2. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    But the Constitution was changed by an Amendment which affected people's freedom and rights.

    Government policies tend to change with the times. Ours have in the UK.

    The vote alters the Government. The governments instructs the police, sheriffs, militia, service wo/men etc...... They obey their government.

    If people start shooting the above because of a point of view then the provisions of your Constitution will surely stop them...... that would be a good job for the Militia.

    Ah.....! But the National Party's white-only government established apartheid, a system of racial segregation that privileged whites, [/QUOTE]
    There was NO DEMOCRACY! The people did not have a vote. You do.
     
  3. Shad

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    Sure. My point was that people didn't repeal it due to a change in the moral claims of Prohibition but money


    My point was to compare Prohibition to Firearms. Pro-gun are not arguing about lost revenue but interpretation.


    I was just following orders is not a defense. Government is not God. Government officials are not robots. Repealing major rights in the Constitution is the grounds for rebellion as government in the US does not create rights.

    Superior orders - Wikipedia

    I am not American. See the above


    My point was about perspective. See how being seen as a terrorist changes?

    The people do not vote on Amendments. The majority does not determine rights no more than a minority does. Look up tyranny of the majority. Also officials swear to uphold the Constitution. Repealing 2a would be seen as dereliction of duty and that oath by many.
     
  4. Mestemia

    Mestemia Advocatus Diaboli
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    No worries mate.
    If you ever decide to have an actual discussion on this topic...
    But I wont be holding my breath.


    Have a nice day
     
  5. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    And my point was that US Amendments can change the laws, and there could be yet more Amendments about common sense gun controls, if that would be necessary.

    God did not feature in the Constitution, I believe.
    And if you think that government servants are criminals for following orders that a section of the people are mad about..... OMG!
    The officials convicted at Nuremberg were mass murderers!
    There's no comparison.

    I thought you are Canadian, but changed my mind on this thread. OK..... Canadian?

    Just a second. Nelson Mandela would have been executed if he had been convicted of murder. He was not!

    Yes the people do. They can vote for a candidate who promises that their party will push for an Amendment.
     
  6. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Rubbish! You don't take me seriously..... you said so...... first. *shaking head*
     
  7. 9-10ths_Penguin

    9-10ths_Penguin 1/10 Subway Stalinist
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    The issue with alcohol is that anyone can make it at home from staple food. The effort and specialized skill needed to build a backyard forge, machine shop, and gunpowder works is beyond most people.
     
  8. Mestemia

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    Unlike alcohol, fire arms are not consumed.
    What need is there to make new ones?
    I mean honestly, there are enough firearms int he USA alone that it would take a rather long time for them to disappear.

    Might argue that ammo is consumed, but like alcohol, you can reload the empty shells fairly easily.
    I mean, it has to be easy.
    I do it myself.
     
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    An Amendment can not repeal nor revoke an existing amendment.


    Government didn't create rights in the Constitution either. Hence people look at the declaration of independence.

    I didn't say that. Strawman. I said depending on the law being enforced. For example the Southern States denied the vote to Blacks while Northern States did not. Ergo State officials are actively suppression a portion of the population based on ideology and revenge. Ergo those officials are jack boots.

    Try reading son. Many of them claimed they were only following orders. That was my point. Only following orders is not a defense.


    I am Canadian


    I said terrorist not murder. Your distortion is noted.


    Candidate, singular. I guess you do not understand how the Amendment system works. Voting for a singular person is not the same as voting for an Amendment
     
  10. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    All very well......
    But the USA has introduced some gun controls by legislation. So I guess it could do so again.

    The Federal Firearms Act of 1938 and the Gun Control Act of 1968 .................licensed gun dealers and established restrictions on particular types of firearms
     
  11. Shad

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    Sure. It still have major issues regarding "infringe" in the 2a
     
  12. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Time will tell for any possible new legislation on the US, who knows?
     
  13. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    Not much, AFAICT.

    Sure, but this thread is about Canada.
     
  14. Mestemia

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    Here in the next ten years we will be able to see see if this current ban has any effect...
     
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