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Featured Can you forgive?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Amanaki, Dec 26, 2018.

  1. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

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    I can forgive most things if asked sincerely, what I find difficult is to forget.
     
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  2. loverofhumanity

    loverofhumanity Well-Known Member
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    To say yes I’d be a liar. The best I can do is to say I’m human and am trying to get to higher spiritual states where I can do such things but I am far from perfect. It is a very noble goal to strive for daily.
     
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  3. blü 2

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    Hmm.

    Good luck to us all.
     
  4. Shantanu

    Shantanu Well-Known Member

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    He is not conventional, I grant you that.
     
  5. blü 2

    blü 2 Well-Known Member
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    We can at least agree on that.
     
  6. Shantanu

    Shantanu Well-Known Member

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    He is also a high attainer.
     
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    I'll mention I don't think history will forget him quickly, and leave it at that.
     
  8. Shantanu

    Shantanu Well-Known Member

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    Are you convinced that he will get a second term?
     
  9. Trackdayguy

    Trackdayguy Speed doesn't kill, it's hitting the wall

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    Forgiveness becomes easier when we let go of the hurt. Forgiveness is also a choice
     
  10. savagewind

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    I think that some things that people are doing are not forgivable. If an action needs forgiving and if the person refuses to stop doing it, I won't forgive that. How can I?
     
  11. Unveiled Artist

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    Yes. I'd have to take as long as I have time to get to that forgiveness.
    If it's a life or death thing, you can forgive someone from a distance. While it is about the other person, we can't control how the other person would take our forgiveness. Forgiveness has no reservations. Even if it's the benefit oneself, I think we can if we wanted to.
     
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    Personally I think some things are unforgivable, especially betrayals of love.
     
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    I think certain things are unforgiveable.
     
  14. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    I think your question lacks a line drawn
    but not for the word.....everything

    to forgive delivers.....relief

    the tension dealt for trespass would be alleviated

    here in this life.....a collection of circumstances could form a conflict

    but in the next life
    what you think and how you feel could cause revulsion

    peace first
    and if forgiveness is needful for peace......

    but what if the next guy DOESN'T think and feel in a peaceful manner?
    what if the next guy is not interested in peace?
     
  15. Amanaki

    Amanaki sotāpanna

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    Not sure what you mean to say here?
    Who are the next guy?
     
  16. Trackdayguy

    Trackdayguy Speed doesn't kill, it's hitting the wall

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    What a great post and what a hot topic. Interesting that I came from a family that were very forgiving, yet my wife came from one where holding a grudge was not only normal but taught. As you can imagine we collided many times in the early days.

    Can I forgive. I'd have to say that normally I'd say yes, but when I've been really hurt I find it a challenge. I believe forgiveness starts with a choice and is the key to becoming whole.
     
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  17. Trackdayguy

    Trackdayguy Speed doesn't kill, it's hitting the wall

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    I think the other key issue with forgiveness is taking charge of our thought life. Seems to me that the carnal man wants revenge, as we all know we cant control what comes into our mind, but we can control (some times) what comes out of our mouth and our actions.

    Several years ago I got very hurt by a women I dated, I thought I'd forgiven her but thoughts of revenge kept coming up including horrific dreams of torturing her. O my God where is this coming from, from then on every time I thought of her I choose to forgive her. In the end I had to face the reality that I was wounded and needed healing. So forgiveness and healing go hand in hand.

    Now I can think of her, I still remember the toxic behaviour but the pain has gone and she has no hold over me.

    Remember when you dont forgive your only beating yourself up
     
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    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    anyone that survived the last breath

    and of course.....God
    and heaven
    and hell
     
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