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Can you explain Hebrews 2:10.

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
“In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered.” (Heb 2:10)

Can someone explain who and who is doing what and what in that verse?
 
“In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered.” (Heb 2:10)

Can someone explain who and who is doing what and what in that verse?
Hebrew 2:10 refers to the role of Jesus Christ in freeing faithful/hopeful humans from the deadly effects of sin and for everlasting life on Paradise earth or a heavenly reward. Hebrews 5:7-10, I believe, is helpful.
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Hebrew 2:10 refers to the role of Jesus Christ in freeing faithful/hopeful humans from the deadly effects of sin and for everlasting life on Paradise earth or a heavenly reward. Hebrews 5:7-10, I believe, is helpful.
Thanks for answering, Mark. No one else wants to answer since they know exactly that it speaks against what they wrongfully believe.

In bringing many sons and daughters to glory…’ (Jesus Christ)

it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, … (God)

… should make the pioneer of their salvation .., (Jesus)

perfect through what he (Jesus) suffered.”(Heb 2:10)”

God made Jesus to be perfect because it was fitting for God (for whom and through whom all things exist) to do so since Jesus was the pioneer of salvation for all mankind.’

‘Jesus was made perfect [by God] because of being the pioneer of salvation for all mankind’…

There was no real need to add the bit about ‘For whom and through whom all things exist’. Any and every true believer knows that ‘All things were created by God and in God all things exist’!
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
In several passages of the Christian Scriptures you will find references to Jesus learning to obey in human conditions.

Heb. 5:8 Although he was a son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered; 9 and after he had been made perfect he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him

When Jesus lived as a spirit next to God, he had not experienced in a body of flesh the needs, obligations and limitations that humans have to live in their own flesh, so to complete his capacity as King of humans in the future he had to experience them himself.

Heb. 4:15 For we have as high priest, not one who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who has been tested in all respects like ourselves, but without sin.

Humans have mandatory limits for everything, a lower limit and an upper limit. For example: we have to eat out of necessity and if we don't eat anything we die, but if we overindulge and become gluttonous we already exceed the limit and may die also... it's like that with everything we can do with our bodies. We can compare human limitations, natural needs and obligations with a kind of slavery. Jesus became a slave in that sense.

Phil. 2:6 who, although he was existing in God’s form, did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God. 7 No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human. 8 More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake. 9 For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, 10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground— 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus' complete obedience contributed positively to human hope under his deserved reign. He became ready to assume the future Kingdom over mankind. All that benefits us in the sense that he knows what is experienced in the flesh.

Heb. 2:16 For it is not really angels he is assisting, but he is assisting Abraham’s offspring. 17 Consequently, he had to become like his “brothers” in all respects, so that he could become a merciful and faithful high priest in things relating to God, in order to offer a propitiatory sacrifice for the sins of the people. 18 Since he himself has suffered when being put to the test, he is able to come to the aid of those who are being put to the test.

PS: Jesus' brothers (144,000) have to be faithful like him, and learn from suffering to be able to reign with him.
 
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