Can Satan Defeat God

[dawny0826]

I agree with what you're saying, but YOU don't think "Satan" helps US with our decisions?

He may place the thoughts and doubts in our heads...he may even have the ability to place obstacles before us...but the whole "The Devil Made me do it" spiel just doesn't fly.

 

[Super Universe]

Satan has no power over you. None. He is nothing compared to you. He is nothing compared to a speck of dirt. At least a speck of dirt abides by it's purpose.

He is not even a leader, he is a traitor and a follower.

Don't use him as an excuse for anyone.

 

[Feathers in Hair]

Hey, all, I think I understand now what I was struggling with before. Should I move this to the 'same faith' debates section, so that the existence and character of the god and Satan in question are established?

 

[Booko]

I personnaly dont believe it possible, but if you think about satan being gods highest spiritual being at the time, he could influence the power of the divine and reverse it back at god, taking his place.(god knows what that could do to the physical universe).

I voted no, because non-existent entities cannot defeat God.

My answer when I was an atheist:
I voted no, because non-existent entities can't even fight.

 

[nutshell]

He may place the thoughts and doubts in our heads...he may even have the ability to place obstacles before us...but the whole "The Devil Made me do it" spiel just doesn't fly.

"The Devil made me do it" is a separate argument. Nothing I've said implies this argument and I don't believe it either.

 

[dawny0826]

"The Devil made me do it" is a separate argument. Nothing I've said implies this argument and I don't believe it either.

You're right.

 

[Quiddity]

How about ummmmm NOOOOOOOOOO.

 

[Maxist]

According to Christianity it will happen. The anti-Christ will reighn on the world of men for seven years, afterwhich Jesus Christ will rule for two thousand years. Is that not the reighn of Satan Itself? Satan is possessing the Anti-Christ!

 

[BucephalusBB]

They say the pupil will always pass his master..

I vote No. I think he would allready have done it.
Then again, why would he? it would take away his fun..

 

[retrorich]

Can Satan Defeat God?

Well, last time I checked, the Las Vegas odds were 3-2 in favor of God. I think I will bet a few bucks on Satan.

 

[Adstar]

satan has lost. But satan can try his best to ensure as many people as possible are lost with him. satan is like a suicide bomber, he knows he is going to die his only motivation is to take as many with him when he goes. So satan can defeat people who reject the Love of the truth. The Messiah Jesus. But satan can never defeat God or those who love the truth and have accepted Jesus. Jesus already defeated satan with his death and resurrection. The only question is who of us will goin the victor and who will join the looser.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[evearael]

No. As Jewscout put it... Satan is God's *****. Satan follows God's orders, nothing more.

 

[Ðanisty]

I voted "Yes, but it would be very hard." I am under no delusion that this would be a difficult task. However, I make a habit of cheering for the underdog and in this case, actually playing for his team.

 

[Quiddity]

I voted "Yes, but it would be very hard." I am under no delusion that this would be a difficult task. However, I make a habit of cheering for the underdog and in this case, actually playing for his team.

Bring it on....Knockout

 

[Ðanisty]

Bring it on....Knockout

Lol...I assume you're joking. You and I have no reason to personally fight one another. If we do cross when the time comes though, you can count on me giving you my personal best.

 

[Ori]

It could go either way, it all depends on us.

Frankly I don't think we're doing so well at the moment, if we've ever done that well at all.

 

[open_mind]

this thread really has no meaning.
if anyone has a 1% hesitation about the fact that there is no chance of facing God,then he doesn't know who is God.
if all creatures including mankind united together with the assistance of the (powerless) satan and decided to give it a shot against their creator,they will not even bother him !!
the least he can do is just tell them DIE,and simply create others as a replacement if he wants
can't you see that God has no problems doing anything he wants?!

 

[Nehustan]

On no I just read the quuestion wrong and answered 'yes easily'....eeeek

I meant the say the opposite, astagfir Allah. I was going to qualify my answer, so given I made such an error I better do it pretty fast. Allah sustains and supports our world/creation (i.e. the first heaven) and the other worlds. He is beyond creation not dependent upon, whereas Iblis is a creation and thus within creation. Iblis is dependent on being 'created' thus dependent on Allah. Allah is not dependent on Iblis. So Iblis cannot defeat Allah as he is totally dependent upon him (as all creation), whereas Allah is independent from his creation nor is he supported by it. So I guess my qualified answer is Allah can't lose, and in this battle Iblis cannot win. There are no grades of answer.

 

[jewscout]

No. As Jewscout put it... Satan is God's *****. Satan follows God's orders, nothing more.

how very true...i picture HaSatan as being joe pesci from "goodfellas"

 

[Squirt]

satan has lost. But satan can try his best to ensure as many people as possible are lost with him. satan is like a suicide bomber, he knows he is going to die his only motivation is to take as many with him when he goes.

That's a good analogy. I like that.