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Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by james blunt, Feb 4, 2019.

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  1. james blunt

    james blunt Well-Known Member

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    The Universe Inside and Out !


    Introduction.


    The Universe inside and out is a journey of discovery that considers past science and present science . A journey of discover that will advance present science thoughts and theory , opening up a whole new era of science in regards to physics and physical process .
    The Universe inside and out makes reference to Dirac , Newton , Higg's , Tesla and Einstein , concluding an united field theory namely the N-field theory , an united field theory that explains the beginning of the visual universe , unites field matter ( spatial quantum fields ) and atomic matter ( Visible objects ) into an united manifold that is independent of space.
    Additionally the Universe inside and out explains the gravity mechanism , the nature of light and the nature of time .


    Chapter One - Absolute Newtonian Space .

    For purposeful and meaningful discussion I feel it is of utmost importance that we all agree upon definition and semantics . Firstly I would like to draw our attention to the definition of space

    1. A continuous area or expanse which is free, available, or unoccupied.

    It is important we do not change the context of our definitions where semantics are important . People often generalise space as being contents included which is contradictory to our definition of space and not of fact .

    In consideration of what is space ?

    I propose that space is the single property of an infinite void , agreeing with Newton that space is absolute and immovable . In regards to space there is no evidence that suggests anything other than these provided seven postulates :

    1) Space cannot be created or destroyed

    2) Space is immovable

    3)
    Space is timeless and has no mechanism to age or decay

    4) Space is the unique property of a void

    5) Space has no mechanism to be visibly light or visibly dark

    6) Space is transparent

    7) Space has no physicality

    There's no reason or reasons why these postulates are not of axiom value and true to observation , it would be quite absurd and subjective to disagree with the postulates without providing proof of evidence to demonstrate falsity of the postulates . Objectively , the seven postulates hold true and are unarguable without evidence to the contrary !



    (To be continued , comments thus far ? )

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  2. George-ananda

    George-ananda Advaita Vedanta and Spiritualist and Pantheist
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    Not understanding why religion would want to even reject this??? Or why we are even talking about religion and the OP content?
     
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  3. Amanaki

    Amanaki The truth lay within you.

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    No need for Religion to reject science. Yes they see things differently now, but in some thousand years more science will discover that religion was right, because right now science can not messure God or spiritulity. But they will in future
     
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    "...the true meaning of time..."

    What does this even mean?
     
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    Space is God in my objective opinion , that's why I am asking religion on science opinion .

    Do you see any falsity in my post ?
     
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    I'll explain time further on in my 'book' , time is misunderstood ! However , now you mentioned that , I could alter the wording to be better , thanks for the comment .
     
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    ratiocinator Strange Loop

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    But it can expand, contract, and curve.

    See avove.

    Space is not separate from time - they are one manifold.

    Nonsense. It has physical properties: dimensionality, geometry, and topology.

    Evidence: Tests of general relativity
     
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    I see a number of issues with your postulates, but I'm not sure it's really worth going into it. I'm pretty sure the response will be "that's not the kind of space I'm talking about" even though it matches the definition provided. For example, a blank sheet of paper is a space. That space on that sheet of paper can certainly be destroyed, moved, decay, is not void, can be illuminated or darkened, is opaque, and has physicality.
     
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    For purposeful and meaningful discussion I feel it is of utmost importance that we all agree upon definition and semantics . Firstly I would like to draw our attention to the definition of space

    1. A continuous area or expanse which is free, available, or unoccupied.

    Please try again and try reading this time !

    It would be quite absurd and subjective to disagree with the postulates without providing proof of evidence to demonstrate falsity of the postulates .

    Added - Evidence: Tests of general relativity


    Does not test the seven postulates .

    1) Space cannot be created or destroyed

    Can you provide any shred of evidence to show falsity of postulate one ?

    I already know you can't !
     
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    A blank sheet of paper is not a space , how absurd ! The blank piece of paper occupies space . The blank piece of paper has an area of atomic matter we can overlay with ink / print .


    Objective facts !
     
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    Nope, that's not going to happen.
     
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    Space can be created, it is linked with space/time, created by the BB.

    Space was created at the BB, along with everything that exists in the universe
     
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    The Big Bang is a useless theory that doesn't work !

    Space was not created at the BB unless the universe started within a solid , but that is room rather than space that always exists. Any event needs a space to happen in , simple logic and science .
     
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  14. George-ananda

    George-ananda Advaita Vedanta and Spiritualist and Pantheist
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    Consciousness is God in my objective opinion.
    I guess the idea of God as space doesn't register with me at all. I am not saying I see any falsity in your post but I am not seeing its relevance to religion.
     
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    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    Newton was wrong. Space is nothing of the sort. We cannot agree on something that is so macroscopically wrong.

    Ciao

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    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    You seem to know when that happened. Can you also say where that happened?

    If not, why not?

    Ciao

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    I ask you to show falsity of the seven postulates ?

    You can't do it can you ?
     
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    Possibly correct , consciousness occupies space . However , consciousness doesn't explain the creation of consciousness and matter .

    I'm glad you don't disagree with the postulates . honesty is a good thing .
     
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    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    Oh dear. This is so 17th century like. Do you also wear a wig?

    Ciao

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    Actually , the completed ''book'' is so the future . Do you have any objection to the seven postulates or do you intend on just posting unrelated comments ?
     
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