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Featured Can God See the Dark?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by IsaiahX, Nov 18, 2018.

  1. IsaiahX

    IsaiahX Dreamer and Oneironaut

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    For the purposes of this argument, assume that an omniscient being (God) exist that senses all things at all times. That means he can see all objects regardless of light level. That means the dark is no hinderance to his perception. Would that not mean that he can not see the darkness at all? Afterall, the darkness dosen't exist, it just us being unable to perceive objects without light, while God can.
     
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    It only stands to reason that He's not hindered by darkness. He created the heaven and the earth in the dark.

    Genesis 1:1
     
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    Since dark is only hindrance to humans and animals, Id assume god would be able to see (light/dark an illusion) since he has no "body" to which prevents him perceiving objects.
     
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    Interesting. The scripture says even the darkness is light to Him. God is Light. (1 John 1:5) So there is no need for any other Light for Him.

    Since God is basically an infinite Mind. He perceives all things that exist and not just all things that exist but those possibilities as well. That is anything that could exist is also known by God. All of this is likely viewed by God as "chaos". It's without order and purpose. It's just random possibilities. But what establishes reality itself is the Word of God. Meaning whatever God speaks into existence comes out from the chaos and exists for real. Established by the command of God. Therefore there is order and reason in His creation.

    In the scriptures the Word of God is spoken of as a "Sword" that "divides". The Word of God divides things. So in this case it's dividing possibility from actuality.

    In some ancient religions this chaos is viewed as a great "deep". A titanic ocean that God calls things out of that they may exist. I have reason to believe that the ancient Hebrews shared this view.

    This is likely the deep spoken of in Genesis 1:3 rather than only being an ocean on planet earth. The first recorded spoken Word of God in Genesis is "Let there be Light". So I hypothesize that this Light is the Light of God Himself. Or in other words the Light is the "Word of God". (pun not intended) The Light shined on the face of the deep; bringing reason, order and wisdom to the chaotic primordial deep. Therefore all creation came forth in the Light of God and was formed in His Light.

    But that's just my theory.
     
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    This would assume the proposed god would need light in order to see. It also presumes the proposed fod has eyeballs with retinas, corneas, optic nerves, etc. those presumtions would begin to move said god out of the “god” catagory and into the “natural” catagory.

    That being said, the concept of omnipotence has been largely abandoned these days by biblical scholars because it has logical flaws.
     
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    Nobody can see the darkness at all.
     
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    They should check with one of us prophets for resolutions to their misperceptions.
     
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    The scriptures use the term "almighty" to describe God. That means literally "all strength". So in other words whatever power does exist belongs to God. It's not even dealing with all possible power but whatever power is real.

    When you understand that all creation is basically coming from the mind of God and established as reality by the Word of God; then you realize that within creation; God basically is without limitations on what He can do.
     
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    Abrahamic God, YWHW or Jesus or Allah, can't even see a few yards away.
    That's why Eve and Adam did what they did. Because God isn't particularly able. He can't explain the outcome of eating the fruit, and He can't undo the results.
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    If God cannot see in the dark and he stubs his toe on, say, a planet, wonder what kind of expletive we would hear?
     
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    Profit.
     
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    I wish it were more than a homonym.
     
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    Become an evangelist. It would appear there's pretty good money in it. Of course, you would have to give most of your profits to God. God needs money.
     
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    BEHOLD as Foxy Shazam singer Eric Nally hits the highest note ever sung by a man at 1:54!
     
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    For purposes of argument this is ridiculous.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    A squared plus b squared equals c squared... So yes. :cool:
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    That sounds like a good song to get drunk to.
     
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    Yes, but he was feeling around for the light switch for an eternity before he created the universe just 13-14 billion years ago.
     
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    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    And plants, quite a godly feat.
     
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    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Tricky one, sound doesn't travel in vacuum, but perhaps hd had his head in the clouds
     
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