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Featured Can Christianity move beyond its inherent homophobia?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Jeremiahcp, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    Can Christianity move beyond its inherent homophobia? And if it can't will it survive the growing social acceptance of the LGBTQ community?

    *** In this context homophobia should be viewed as prejudice towards the LGBTQ community.


    ***EDIT to help avoid the confusion I can already see setting in:

    Just to clarify a bit:

    The fact that some have been able to move beyond the homophobia does not mean the whole will. It does suggest the possibility, which is what the inquiry of the OP is about. I know some of you feel the need to ride in on a white horse to defend Christianity, but such religions are very much a hot spot for homophobia, likely because of their teachings and the question is: Can Christianity move beyond this limitation?
     
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    Inherent? How so?
     
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  3. DavidFirth

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    Homosexuality is a sin. That will never change, the Bible cannot be changed.

    We love and welcome all but we will never accept sin nor will we ever give sin our approval since God hates sin.
     
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    I think society is becoming more fragmented, not more accepting. The greatly increased population allows more people to find their niche.
     
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    Sure. There's many accepting Christian groups and LGBT Christians.
     
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    I really don't see how unless Christians admit Scripture is wrong, thus, at least in part, negating the teachings of the religion itself.
     
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    I don't think that Christians would consider themselves homophobes, I think they just merely believe homosexuality (not identifying as one, but acting out homosexual sex acts) are sinful, and they just stand by that. As a community, I don't think Christians shun homosexuals, but many Christians do, and that's really on them, not on the faith as a whole.
     
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    Thank you. Indeed, some who call themselves Christians have even denounced scripture.
     
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    Good post, Deidre.
     
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    Or just putting the verses into context and seeing what they actually say.
     
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    Thanks....once upon a Christian life. Wasn't that long ago for me. :blush:
     
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    There's LGBT Christians who don't think their sexual orientation or gender identity is sinful, fyi.
     
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    As been pointed out to me though out my life it is in the Bible, and most Christian Churches specifically teach it as a sin (AKA something bad). I mean you can be obtuse about it if you like, but they teach this in the Christian religion and they believe this decree comes from their god. That is inherent to the religion
     
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    Not preaching to you, but I do pray for your return. Just to let you know.
     
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    Most racist don't consider themselves racist, and as far as I am concerned if they believe homosexuality is a sin then that is a prejudice belief.
     
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    Case in point.
     
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    When I was following Christianity, I didn't think it was, and honestly...did Jesus talk about homosexuality, specifically? I don't believe he did, like specifically speaking about it.
     
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    Please, by all means, expound your interpretation of Leviticus 20.
     
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    No. He did tell straight people not to divorce, though. The early Church Baptized gender variant people like the Ethiopians eunuch, too (eunuchs were a sort of third sex category in the ancient world).
     
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    Well, I left Christianity for a few reasons, one being that the Bible breeds a lot of hatred and bigotry. While I do understand why people believe what they believe, I know what the Bible teaches, it still (in my opinion) is wrong to tell people that they may not be in heaven because of sin. Any sin. To me, if the Bible has any meaning at all, it is to guide the person reading it...not for that person to turn into a mini-Jesus, and start chastising and condemning people who are in sin. Unless of course, they are sinless? Hmmm.
     
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