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Can Black People be Racist?

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by SLPCCC, Jun 1, 2020.

  1. Father Heathen

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    How did you infer that?
     
  2. SLPCCC

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    Also, being prejudice is not the same as being racist. A person can be prejudice even if he is not a racist but a person can’t be referred to as racist if he is not prejudice. There are many people here in the USA who are prejudice against blacks but are not racist and many blacks who are prejudice against others but are not racist.
     
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    I'm a terrible person. At work, I'll chat up customers about all sorts
    of things....religion, politics, race, music, food, etc. I waste huge
    amounts of time. (Whooda thunk it, eh?)
    I recall a conversation with a tenant about who has the power.
    She is a black gal, & thought white folk had all of it. I asked her
    what her party is..."Democrat". We discussed how many times
    her party won the presidency & other elections. I explained that
    I vote Libertarian 90% of the time, but my party never wins.
    Her vote put people in office about half the time. Mine....as now,
    I am politically useless.
    She re-thought that idea that power was based solely on race.
     
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    I didn't infer anything. But there are people who assert that any overt expression of anti-racism is itself an expression of racism.
     
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    Do you mean like reverse racism?

    Def: Reverse racism or reverse discrimination is the concept that affirmative action and similar color-conscious programs for redressing racial inequality are a form of anti-white racism. The concept is often associated with conservative social movements and the belief that social and economic gains by black people in...
     
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    Reversing the damage caused by institutional racism (affirmative action) is not racism. And here is why: the term "racism" is a shorthand term referring to "racially based bigotry". And bigotry is by definition both elitist and exclusive, and intolerant of anything that is not elitist and exclusive to itself. Such that by it's own definition, then, anything that is not itself, is itself. And that's clearly an incoherent proposition.
     
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    The term "racist" is shorthand for "racially based prejudice" (or bigotry). We can be prejudiced against other things besides race, and therefor not be "racist". But if we are prejudiced against people based on their race, we are "racist".
     
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    Ive known black people who are racist, including some who were open about it.
     
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    Racism is defined as prejudice that is based on race. Every racist is prejudice, but not every person with a prejudice is racist. Such as, prejudice against women is called misogyny. Or misamdry when it's men. Prejudice against race is racism. To be racist it to hold prejudices against the ethnicity of an individual or group.
     
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    I don't think this exists.
    Racism is racism, it doesn't matter who or why. If the rules are different, or someone's perception of another individual are different, or whatever, (based on race) it's racism.

    Racist policies, like Affirmative Action, have been used to combat the generations old effects of racist policies. But it's still racism.
    Tom
     
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    If you believe everyone is racist, then you will see racism everywhere you go.
     
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    I think a person can be prejudice against another person or group of people due to ignorance and not be racist. In other words, they may have preconceived beliefs of a group but not believe that the people are inferior. Whereas when a person who is prejudice, caused by racism, is ignorant of the group and also believes that that group is inferior is racist.

    For example, I had a friend who was prejudice of a group because he didn't like their culture. He felt that they were too loud, rude, and noisy. He didn't think that we were superior to them. He was just ignorant to the fact that not all of those people were what he viewed them to be.

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    ``.....ignorant..... fact..... all.....``

    important words; these !
     
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    Yeah! I hate everybody who's boyfriend is better looking than mine!
     
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    Of course. There's black racists out there who absolutely hates whites.
     
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    If someone believes a racial group has a specific characteristic and is prejudiced against that racial group as a result, how could that be anything other than seeing them as inferior in some way? If they didn't think the characteristic made members of the racial group inferior in some way, why would they be prejudiced against people of that race because of it?

    Well that wouldn't be racism by definition - culture is race. If he assumed anyone of the same race shared that culture and thought less of them as a result that, would be racism.
     
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    That's not way they're being killed. It's mostly due to robberies and some probably have to do with angry farm workers getting back at their boss.
     
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    It's mostly white women who benefit from it. White men benefit from it, as well. But many of you love to whine about how it's unfair, when it doesn't disadvantage white people at all. There's still huge racial disparities across job fields and academia. But poor oppressed white people. :rolleyes:

    https://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/11682950/fisher-supreme-court-white-women-affirmative-action
     
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    Everybody can be racist.

    I cannot believe anyone of a sound mind would believe otherwise.
     
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    That depends on what you mean by "racism" and "black people".

    Racism has many forms and not all of them would be applicable to an oppressed minority such as African Americans. Structural and institutional racism, in particular, are premised on the ruling class building racist discrimination into the structures of power to allow the perpetration racial oppression even by ostensibly "not racist" people.

    On the other hand, the majority of black people live in countries where they are the majority both numerically and in terms of political dominance. In that case, they could certainly employ the institutional tools of racism as well.

    Further, one can be both victim of racism and commit racist acts oneself. People in Africa are still the victim of the structural racism of the world order that was established by white colonialists, even if the various African ethnicities themselves engage in racist oppression against minorities in their own countries.
     
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