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Can an Islamist party be truly Democratic

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by England my lionheart, Mar 5, 2011.

  1. Bismillah

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    Supposing we are talking about Sunni unity than it is not an ultimate concern, I do not believe it is possible to unite Shias without divine intervention (i.e the appearance of the 12th Imam).

    I am confused. If these practices were performed by a secular government than they are democratic, but by a religion one they are not?

    Why would they not be dealth with fairly? And are we just restricting ourselves to Egyptian governments?

    What are the problems?
     
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    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    no neither can a Protestant or a jew can a shia be a Caliph? but wait ! what has that to do with a women or a Copt or a Bahia'i being president of Egypt? why are you keeping on about a Caliph ?
     
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    Yep we give you that and i think we all know that but. A president?
     
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    Unless of course they agree on an Ayatollah as a leader. But there are recent movements to try and incorporate the Jafari school of thought among the four other great maddhabs.

    But specifically the process I listed is democratic no? In regards to women, there are branches and scholars who don't see gender as a barrier to become a Caliph.

    In regards to non-Muslims, why would they even desire to become a Caliph?

    Well let's discuss whether democracy is possible within an Islamist mindset my friend.
     
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    "The Caliph is the spiritual leader of Islam. His whole existence and purpose is entertained with the religion."

    Of course not.

    or a jew[/quote] Of course not.

    Interesting enough a Sunni would say yes, a Shia would say only a specific individual.

    Because the title is "Can an Islamist party be truly Democratic " Is it not? We are not talking about a specific case primarily, but of an Islamist party. If we are to do this we must deal in the ideals of such a party, primary the establishment of a Caliphate. So we talk about the Caliph do we not?
     
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    If we are not talking about a specific case then its a waste of time talking isnt it ?theres too many variables.

    Can an Islamist party be truly democratic? yes if theres no discrimination regards political office.The Caliphate would come later , much much later.
     
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    I am being specific,i should have put Egypt in the title,the MB are saying a Woman cannot be President,the reason was given that a Woman cannot lead the prayer.
     
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