Can a human be more compassionate and merciful than God (in your opinion)

[Spiderman]

So, if I was omnipotent (the quality of having unlimited power) I would heal people of mental and physical illnesses. I would fill with joy and euphoria every sad, lonely, depressed, and miserable person. I would heal all infirmities and mental illness. I would give pedophiles and sexual deviants a healthy sexuality so that they don't feel inclined to commit acts that harm themselves or others. I would heal all people of drug, sexual, or other addictions

I would enlighten all people to know the truth. I would speak clear messages to people that seek me so that they could write down word-for-word my instructions (So there would be no confusion). I would elect world leaders who were the most wise and compassionate people on earth, and I would guide their every decision so that they knew what was best for the people.

Would we have a better world if that was done?

I would let no one be tortured for all eternity in hell. I find that people who do evil are often suffering a lot. No one wakes up in the morning and says "I'm feeling so good today, I want to go kill a bunch of people" . Consequently, I feel compassion for such people already and dread the idea of them suffering forever. Either heal them, transform them, or put them out of their misery.

I'm reading a book by Allan Kardec "The Spirit's book". It's a great read if you haven't read it. He interacts with spirits and they answer all his questions about spirits. They claim that the Spirit existed before it was incarnated and that this body is just one temporary outfit. They tell him that every spirit will be purified and made perfect eventually, but for some it will take many thousands of years and many lifetimes.

I have to agree that this belief is far more just, compassionate, merciful, and rational than the belief that people will be tortured forever and ever because of what they did or believed in this brief life (which is one-second compared to eternity....why punish someone eternally because of what they did with one-second, especially when you consider that they were blind, confused, unenlightened, and naturally inclined to sin).

Please answer the poll if you could. Please be honest about it. I'm asking what is the most compassionate approach. You might firmly believe that eternal torture is what is in store for unbelievers, but do you truly find that to be the most compassionate approach?

 

[interminable]

Actually this world is the world of test.

This is the reason of all that u said

 

[Spiderman]

If u were god

Whose approach is more compassionate?

 

[interminable]

Whose approach is more compassionate?

U overlook something important

Here isn't heaven
Here is just for test.
Belivers for every pains that they suffer will be rewarded.

 

[Spiderman]

U overlook something important

Here isn't heaven
Here is just for test.
Belivers for every pains that they suffer will be rewarded.

And unbelievers shall be punished forever for failing this brief "test"

 

[Spiderman]

I see you never answered my question , because my approach is clearly more merciful than God's

 

[interminable]

And unbelievers shall be punished forever for failing this brief "test"

Intention is very very important in Islam especially Shia

Those who will be punished by eternal hell they intended to do that for ever
I mean if they die and see the reality and comeback again to this life they would continue their previous deeds as Quran says.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

U overlook something important

Here isn't heaven
Here is just for test.
Belivers for every pains that they suffer will be rewarded.

If people know the rules & paramaters of a test then the results will be deeply flawed. Further, the test is ultimately pointless if the being administering the test already knows how it will end for each test subject.

 

[interminable]

I see you never answered my question , because my approach is clearly more merciful than God's

We have in our traditions that poor people when wanna go to heaven wish to be poor all the time in carnal world because they see their rewards.

 

[Parchment]

Actually this world is the world of test.
This is the reason of all that u said

A test for what? To see if one is worthy of kissing God's *** for eternity after their physical death?

 

[Skwim]

Actually this world is the world of test.

This is the reason of all that u said

Why a test? Isn't god omniscient, already knowing how we would score?


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[interminable]

If people know the rules & paramaters of a test then the results will be deeply flawed. Further, the test is ultimately pointless if the being administering the test already knows how it will end for each test subject.

U just think about heaven and hell
Those who wanna be gnostic should suffer from pain and problems to gain salvation. Without pain all things that god has put in our soul will never show itself

 

[Tumah]

So, if I was omnipotent (the quality of having unlimited power) I would heal people of mental and physical illnesses. I would fill with joy and euphoria every sad, lonely, depressed, and miserable person. I would heal all infirmities and mental illness. I would give pedophiles and sexual deviants a healthy sexuality so that they don't feel inclined to commit acts that harm themselves or others. I would heal all people of drug, sexual, or other addictions

I would enlighten all people to know the truth. I would speak clear messages to people that seek me so that they could write down word-for-word my instructions (So there would be no confusion). I would elect world leaders who were the most wise and compassionate people on earth, and I would guide their every decision so that they knew what was best for the people.

Would we have a better world if that was done?

I would let no one be tortured for all eternity in hell. I find that people who do evil are often suffering a lot. No one wakes up in the morning and says "I'm feeling so good today, I want to go kill a bunch of people" . Consequently, I feel compassion for such people already and dread the idea of them suffering forever. Either heal them, transform them, or put them out of their misery.

I'm reading a book by Allan Kardec "The Spirit's book". It's a great read if you haven't read it. He interacts with spirits and they answer all his questions about spirits. They claim that the Spirit existed before it was incarnated and that this body is just one temporary outfit. They tell him that every spirit will be purified and made perfect eventually, but for some it will take many thousands of years and many lifetimes.

I have to agree that this belief is far more just, compassionate, merciful, and rational than the belief that people will be tortured forever and ever because of what they did or believed in this brief life (which is one-second compared to eternity....why punish someone eternally because of what they did with one-second, especially when you consider that they were blind, confused, unenlightened, and naturally inclined to sin).

Please answer the poll if you could. Please be honest about it. I'm asking what is the most compassionate approach. You might firmly believe that eternal torture is what is in store for unbelievers, but do you truly find that to be the most compassionate approach?

That's what you do if you were omnibenovlent and omnipotent. The question is if that's what you'd do if you were omniscient as well.

 

[Spiderman]

That's what you do if you were omnibenovlent and omnipotent. The question is if that's what you'd do if you were omniscient as well.

I should have known the best answer would come from a Jew

 

[Spiderman]

We have in our traditions that poor people when wanna go to heaven wish to be poor all the time in carnal world because they see their rewards.

I can see some beauty in that.

So, will I go to hell if I don't convert to Islam?

 

[interminable]

A test for what? To see if one is worthy of kissing God's *** for eternity after their physical death?

For endless happiness

 

[interminable]

I can see some beauty in that.

So, will I go to hell if I don't convert to Islam?

Beauty in what??

آل عمران
وَمَن يَبْتَغِ غَيْرَ الْإِسْلَامِ دِينًا فَلَن يُقْبَلَ مِنْهُ وَهُوَ فِي الْآخِرَةِ مِنَ الْخَاسِرِينَ
And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. (85)

 

[interminable]

Why a test? Isn't god omniscient, already knowing how we would score?


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According to quran some unbelievers when see the hell say we didn't do anything wrong
God will ask their hands and legs and ...to bear witness against that person

Besides we are his creature
He planned for us some worlds to pass

So u can't question him why did u create me. Because u weren't there to be asked.
So we are completely in his hand.
Eventually I wanna say we are facing with a fait Accompli

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

U just think about heaven and hell
Those who wanna be gnostic should suffer from pain and problems to gain salvation. Without pain all things that god has put in our soul will never show itself

Yes, don't think about how illogical Islamic doctrine is. Just keep thinking blindly about the end result; not the means of getting there or whether the god administering the test lives up to the lofty claims its followers make for it. Don't question it

Oh, and 'gnostic' (relating to knowledge) is a very flattering term for something you believe but cannot evidence.

 

[Aštra’el]

Why do you feel God(s) should be compassionate?