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Can a Christian support war?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by nnmartin, May 6, 2012.

  1. FlyingTeaPot

    FlyingTeaPot Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.

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    There are no just wars. Wars involve killing innocent people. That is not just. And for the people who at this point would suggest that 'War is Hell' and there will be collateral damage, I put to you that this is exactly why wars are unjust.
     
  2. Desert Snake

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    What about a country defending itself from attack? You don't think that is a "just war"?
     
  3. nnmartin

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    and how about the pre-emptive strike?

    Recently there was a thread about Hiroshima and the Enola Gay and whether it was just or not......how would this fit in with Biblical thinking?
     
  4. FlyingTeaPot

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    That is still an unjust war, because the attacking country is being unjust in this case. Wars involve two or more countries. It is always unjust to one or more of them.
     
  5. Desert Snake

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    I suppose what I'm getting at is can you blame a country for defending itself against attack? Of course the war is going to be "unjust", that's sort of the default position of wars.
     
  6. FlyingTeaPot

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    Two points
    A) I don't believe in the man-made construct of countries. This means that I don't think unrelated people should rally behind their "country" to defend itself from another "country".
    B) And ofcourse, in the world that we live in, it is obvious that I cannot blame a country from defending itself from attack.

    And that is exactly my point. Wars by definition are unjust.
     
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  7. InformedIgnorance

    InformedIgnorance Do you 'know' or believe?

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    Of course a christian can support war (in general or in specific cases), the question is whether a christian SHOULD support war - in general, in specific cases, or according to various criteria... are there criteria identified in christian theology that might justify christians supporting wars? Certainly not by Jesus - but according to some of the other works? Sure; after all, only part of Christian theology is determined by what Jesus said and did.
     
  8. Chisti

    Chisti Active Member

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    Exactly. Besides, the whole patriotic stuff is based on the accident of birth, which in itself is quite silly. You can't control or plan where you take birth, so being proud of something over which you had no control ... well, that's ridiculous.
     
  9. kai

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    agreed.
     
  10. Protester

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    Yes, Banana Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ,oil wars, etc. are wrong. Korea was a righteous war, If we hadn't gone in there all of Korea could have been like North Korea,:no: A lot of killing was stopped in the former Yugoslavia by the intervention.. I would have Rwanda should have been a French mess to clean up, and not an American one, but the French fell down on their obligations there. Can the U.S. clean up all the messes in the world or should it? I don't think so.

    A short monograph on the topic, What does the Bible say about a Christian serving in the military?
     
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